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caloso 12-08-13 04:41 PM

Xmas decorating and Nativity pageant intervals. 'Tis the season.

mike868y 12-08-13 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by furiousferret (Post 16312610)
How is it in the 40's with the sun out? First, that shouldn't happen anywhere.

what?

furiousferret 12-08-13 04:47 PM

Maybe it does happen, but I do not like it.

mollusk 12-08-13 05:13 PM

Team ride was as advertized until about 50 miles in and then there was some "testosterone poisoning" with the resulting team mate drama stuff. (Both at fault in my opinion.) Overall pretty much what I wanted for the day. It was a little shorter time-wise (about 3.5 hours vs 4 hours), but a little more intense so it works out fine in the grand scheme. It just means that tomorrow will be an easier ride, but a little longer.

revchuck 12-08-13 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by furiousferret (Post 16312610)
Holy crap it was cold out there. How is it in the 40's with the sun out? First, that shouldn't happen anywhere. Second, it most certainly shouldn't happen in the desert.

90 minutes of hills / descents. Did a quasi ftp test at the beginning and its up another 15 :)

I can whine better than you can! Yesterday's ride was in the 30s, with wind chill in the 20s. 4:32 of that. In south effin' Louisiana. At least it was dry yesterday; I pulled the plug on today's ride since the temps were the same but it was raining. Just call me Nancy. :)

rbart4506 12-08-13 08:30 PM

Another 3hrs of ass freezing riding... Endurance with a nice stretch of tempo thrown in...

Rollers for the week, I've been cold enough :)

wktmeow 12-08-13 08:35 PM

Skill drills with the team and some indoor coaching with Larry Nolan yesterday

Freezing as hell 4 hour team ride today. I'm actually starting to keep up with some of the fast guys in the hills now, feelsgoodman. Hwy 9 descent was too damn cold though, I nearly shook myself right off the bike.

Ygduf 12-08-13 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by wktmeow (Post 16313137)
Skill drills with the team and some indoor coaching with Larry Nolan yesterday

Freezing as hell 4 hour team ride today. I'm actually starting to keep up with some of the fast guys in the hills now, feelsgoodman. Hwy 9 descent was too damn cold though, I nearly shook myself right off the bike.

you live in my area. which team?

lsberrios1 12-08-13 09:07 PM

Ok, since I raced ONCE I think it is now appropriate for me to post here.

I am just happy to say that I am back in the groove. After losing some weight my legs don't feel as powerful as they did by the end of october but at the same time I am on my second weeks of my 3rd training block after a 3 week hiatus from over-exhaustion and knee pain so it's understandable. My zone 2 power average seems to have dropped from 180-190 to 160-170. Not bad considering it I am about 9 pounds less now. My short 1000+ watt bursts are also out the door leaving me with 850w peak power figures.

I am also back to 10+ hour weeks even with crappy weather on tap so determination is there and my fitness high craze is on. I feel motivated and ready to tackle the on / off season.

ovoleg 12-08-13 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tetonrider (Post 16311050)
i have owned, tested, installed and/or serviced dozens of quarqs. in my experience, some just tend to eat batteries far quicker than others. in fact, it was rare for me to ever get the stated life out of a battery. i've had some units average 125h per battery.

a couple things come to mind:
- are you using good batteries? you can purchase 20 or 50 cr2032s on ebay for a song, but IME most of them start out reading just barely passable voltage. name-brand batteries where you can actually see (verify) the expiration data can make a difference.

- is the quarq sending false low-battery signals to your head unit? my suggestion is to ignore the warnings and see how many extra hours you get. is it one ride? 25 more hours? 200 more hours? just toss a fresh cr2032 in your pocket so you are prepared if the battery dies mid-ride. might be worth checking and could also give you a clue as to how much longer you can go.

- this one is actually pretty big and not all that well known: do you install your batteries with your bare hands? a bit of oil from your fingers can easily be transferred to the battery, and if this happens it can prevent the unit from powering down as it should, seriously shortening life. next time you install one (not just in a quarq but in any other device), use gloves, a napkin, or just be super careful (wash your hands and handle the battery only by the edges).

i hope it is something simple like stale batteries or improper handling rather than an issue with the unit. good luck!

when I click "about" in the powermeter settings on the 810 it says the battery life is "good" but it keeps throwing the stupid signal that my battery is low. I don't get it!

I normally buy energizer batteries from CVS, nothing special but not the cheapo stuff.

I definitely just use my hands, thanks for the tip I'm going to try using a towel and such next time I put the battery in!. Thanks again.

wktmeow 12-08-13 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ygduf (Post 16313173)
you live in my area. which team?

Team Fremont. We usually ride in the south/east bay, but we started from Sports Basement Sunnyvale today.

I chat with one of your teammates, Jason, once in a while. Maybe I can come out and join you guys on a ride one of these days (when I'm faster...)

Ygduf 12-08-13 09:34 PM

I ride slow all the time. South and East Bay are lame. We'll get Beardo to come down again and we can all go on a ass-freezing cold winter ride.

ovoleg 12-08-13 09:54 PM

I like ygduf strava, everytime I see him climbing he's over 1300 vam lol. I think my best VAM is like 1000 for 20mins.

furiousferret 12-08-13 10:03 PM

I didn't even know what VAM is until now. Apparently, I still need to lose some weight.

aaronmcd 12-08-13 11:36 PM

Very cold (30s) ride today. Same deal as yesterday: toes started going numb an hour in, even with 2 pairs of socks. Even hands were cold in the gloves. It better warm up soon or I won't be finishing base. 1.5 hours, easy out, ramped up, rode 90% ftp for about 20', ramped down. End of recovery week.

Also, my gymnasts had their first meet today up in Petaluma. 2nd place team, but they had a bad day individually. They'll do better as they get comfortable with their routines.

Ygduf 12-09-13 12:00 AM

you know about toe covers and oversocks. 2 pair of socks inside the shoe will just restrict blood and make for cold toes.

aaronmcd 12-09-13 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ygduf (Post 16313532)
you know about toe covers and oversocks. 2 pair of socks inside the shoe will just restrict blood and make for cold toes.

I didn't know about those. Worth it? I don't think this weather will last very long... I still think like I'm in Arizona - I tend to just deal with it knowing it will warm up soon, but that won't work if my toes freeze an hour into a ride. How about those wool socks they sell at the bike shop?

P.S.
I just recently bought my first long sleeve jersey, and still don't have anything but shorts. Shorts are fine though - my legs don't really get cold.

robabeatle 12-09-13 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by aaronmcd (Post 16313574)
I didn't know about those. Worth it? I don't think this weather will last very long... I still think like I'm in Arizona - I tend to just deal with it knowing it will warm up soon, but that won't work if my toes freeze an hour into a ride. How about those wool socks they sell at the bike shop?

P.S.
I just recently bought my first long sleeve jersey, and still don't have anything but shorts. Shorts are fine though - my legs don't really get cold.

I have toe covers, for ~45-65 degrees, and booties for temperatures below that. I couldn’t imagine riding without them now.

revchuck 12-09-13 05:52 AM

Aaron - Fudgy's right. Get the toe covers and also leg warmers. Your body constricts blood flow to the extremities to maintain your core's temperature, so your toes and fingers are the first to go cold. I was out in those temps Saturday for four and a half hours, and didn't get cold until the last hour or so when I slowed down. Jacket, long sleeved jersey, base layer, long-fingered gloves, leg warmers, booties...some of it doesn't get worn but a few times a year, but you need it.

rideaz 12-09-13 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ygduf (Post 16313532)
you know about toe covers and oversocks. 2 pair of socks inside the shoe will just restrict blood and make for cold toes.

Well, I'm in Arizona and I still need shoe covers LOL. I have 2 types of shoe covers. I have the oversock type for moderately cold days and then I have these neoprene shoe covers for really cold days:
http://www.specialized.com/us/en/ftr...ene-shoe-cover
My feet were not cold at all in 30 degree temps on Saturday. The only bad thing is that they are a pain to get on and once on, it's difficult to adjust/tighten your shoe.
Now, I just need to find a better pair of gloves because my fingers were ****ing frozen!!

waterrockets 12-09-13 08:06 AM

Toe covers are great, as they are about 80% as warm as booties, and you don't need to take them off, so mine stay on from ~December - ~February. On really cold days, I can pull booties over them with no trouble. The toe covers do not interfere with upper shoe adjustment. My shoes have two velcro straps lower, and I never touch those (I leave them loose for blood flow), and a ratchet strap up top. The ratchet strap and the upper velcro are easily accessible with the toe covers in place.

thechemist 12-09-13 08:47 AM

Shoot even in CA I bet you want knee warmers,toe covers at a minimum

mattm 12-09-13 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ygduf (Post 16313532)
2 pair of socks inside the shoe will just restrict blood and make for cold toes.

Or you can loosen your shoes a bit - that's what I do when wearing two pairs of socks.

Creatre 12-09-13 09:48 AM

Fudgy doesn't live where it's cold enough to need everything you can do to keep the feet warm. My booties are good, but I need the extra layers of socks too.

furiousferret 12-09-13 09:55 AM

I just spent a few $$ yesterday on cold weather gear, in the past I always ran in the winter, now I know why (lol). Descending in cold is MISERY.

Got some neoprene shoe covers, a jacket / vest combo, full leg tights (I'll buy another if they work well).

My leg warmers kept falling off, and I ended up just taping them to my legs to stay up.


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