caloso

I feel tired and stuffy. It feels like a cold but it's probably allergies. That's the problem with living in the Valley.

oespinoza83

WRI today. With 20mph headwinds. 30+mph gusts. But hey, at least it was clear skies with temps in the low 70s.

tetonrider

could be lots of things. add a bad meter to the list (unlikely, just a joke from the other thread), or a bad auto zero (possible).

was 343 a best-ever type of ride for you, or pretty routine? the reason i ask is that best-ever efforts are nearly impossible to predict, though one can get a bit better with peaking over time. still, there are just those anomalous efforts that happen sometimes. sometimes 95% IS a 100% effort.

don't sweat a single training session (too much...it's natural to wonder); if it felt hard it was doing some good and the session was only 5% off from the 343 day. take note of the circumstances surrounding this one. if it becomes a pattern (low power), then investigate further. ride notes are very helpful.

aaronmcd

Not bad data, my time corresponds to the power. Even Strava's estimate was only 2 watts off. The 343 was a best-ever. This is my monthly all-out effort on this hill - I do it after recovery week. This is only my fifth ever recovery week. It's annoying not really knowing what caused the poor effort today though.

grolby

Well, I did it. 10x1 minute intervals. Can't say I felt too awesome when I got done, but that will come. I definitely remember getting done with the 5th and thinking, "****, I'm only half done!?" Yeah. But I sucked it up and finished. I should probably do these somewhere else, though. Parts of the roads I was on are a bit scary when you're cross-eyed and doing 30 mph at dusk.

tetonrider

while it is frustrating, 5% lower than a best-ever effort does not cause me to raise an eyebrow. i know, i know--it is frustrating for you (as it would be were i in your shoes), but we can't simply get out and keep doing best-ever efforts.

you may never know what caused it, but by keeping notes over time you may notice some trends if this comes up again today.

in my workout today, despite perfect weather, good motivation, solid PE and HR, i just couldn't make the power i wanted. we're not machines, as much as we'd like to be. i wouldn't bet against you setting a higher bar the next time you try that climb.

Ygduf

It was what, 20f warmer?

aaronmcd

15 according to my computer. I was trying to think why that might make a difference but idk.

Anyway, I guess I'm still in that beginner stage where I expect every single attempt to be better than the last.

TexMac

ha ha...same here.. did a 30 mile solo,

TexMac

30 miles in today with crazy winds at 25mphr. Sometimes cruising at 30mphr and eating wind at 15 mphr, overall a good ride before 150 miles to Austin on saturday

bmcphx

I would love to make 343 watts for 20 minutes, I'd be sooooo fast. According to the e wang chat that's div. 3 pro power.

mike868y

chill the **** out.

bmcphx

Get a nicer demeanor.

furiousferret

35 degree jump between this session and the last. Typically the mid 90's are no biggie but when it was in the 60's all last week it feels like getting slapped with a warm towel.

tetonrider

what if you could do it...but you had to double your weight?

mattm

What you should really focus on is whether your results are improving, not the power data.

You have a bigger ewang than me, so you should be able to do some damage by racing smart! It won't matter how strong you are if you aren't racing wisely..

echappist

this is the second time in less than two week when you resorted to outright ad hominem attacks on others (the first time when you tried to take down a notch the guy who won the state cat-4 championship race). I know you are about to graduate soon, but getting a BA/BS from a top notch school does not give you right to belittle others at will, especially when the other person has not provoked you.

You could have told him that due to different variables, his results this time around was different, or that sometimes under-par performance just happens; therefore, sip some beer and don't take it too seriously. Instead, you tell him to chill the eff out. Sterling behavior on your part.

Siu Blue Wind

Indeed. mike868y, please leave this thread.

MDcatV

man, you guys get your dander up quickly.

aaronmcd - sometimes you take steps back. there's usually a reason, and the reason is usually related to inadequate recovery. i stopped reading most of your posts a while ago, but if I recall correctly, you're spending lots of time on the bike, doing group rides, intervals, commuting, etc., and you're swimming and dong off the bike exercising. those things, plus whatever your daily routine is with standing, sitting too long without moving, walking, etc., add fatigue. those things might not have impacted you a few week ago and you macked out an all time best, but they do catch up with you at some point and you go sideways or backwards. you think you are recovered, but you probably arent. been there. too many times, that's why i'm paying someone to keep me in check (coach).

dont let it fester, put it behind you and move forward with some nice ez rides, focus on nutrition, and save your efforts for race day. good luck.

gsteinb

read: burgers and ice cream

shovelhd

MDcatV is saying the exact same things I and others have been trying to tell Aaron for quite a while now. It's up to him if he wants to listen. In a nutshell, if he wants to be successful at racing and is dedicated enough to make it his only sport, then

Drop the cross training immediately. Save that for the offseason and mid season breaks.
Set your goal races for the season. Break it up into two or more sections. Plan on 1-2 weeks of minimal racing during the breaks.
Pick an appropriate work/rest cycle, i.e. 2/1, 3/1. Rest weeks should double the rest and decrease the time and intensity.
Use these parameters to develop a plan and stick to it. That means no group rides if you don't have the discipline to let guys ride away.
Forget about the Ewang. You're not impressing anyone with your numbers. Use the power meter as a tool to stick to your plan.

Do this for your next block and report back.

rkwaki

Don't knock it til you try it.
Hey stein that guy up there has three blue stars. Does mean he's three times the mod?

rkwaki

great post shovel.
To be a great bike racer much like being a good bodybuilder or any other great athlete requires you to check your ego at the door.

grolby

Come on, dude. What did you know when you first got here? We all have things to learn.

MDcatV

sure, you never write or call, then you compliment lord shovelhd with great post accolades after he quotes mine. I'm so hurt. I'm outta here. I'm going to go find that coffee shop mikey is at and yell when my triple caf half latte with four hazelnut pumps isn't don't right!