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Old 01-29-13, 03:59 PM   #926
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And never EVER mix your protein shakes with milk.

In answering your question we have found Pro Complete V-Core for Complete Nutrition to be the best (and most expensive) other than that Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard is pretty goo and significantly cheaper.
Reason?
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Old 01-29-13, 04:00 PM   #927
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And never EVER mix your protein shakes with milk.

In answering your question we have found Pro Complete V-Core for Complete Nutrition to be the best (and most expensive) other than that Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard is pretty goo and significantly cheaper.
Why not? I sometimes have a scoop of protein with 300g of milk (delicious)!

Will this make me fat like you?
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Old 01-29-13, 04:06 PM   #928
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Yeah mixing with milk will not only make you fat but give you think skin. Also harder for us old guys to digest without bloating and gas.

Yes Canuck you will be fat like me.
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Old 01-29-13, 04:09 PM   #929
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Oh, the gas. Well, that explains things.....
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Old 01-29-13, 04:12 PM   #930
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Oh, the gas. Well, that explains things.....
Correct!!!
I can peel the paint off off my car...
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Old 01-29-13, 04:12 PM   #931
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So a quick search on protein intake in the body builder forums yields people taking anywhere from 1-2 (or up to 4) g per lb or kg. Obviously that is a huge range. Majority is stating 1 g per pound at a minimum. I am under that by quite a bit. Frankly, I am sick of feeling bloated from food intake.

Rk: I am a big rice milk fan. Any problems using this in my mix?

And thinking about this further, my binges happen after a couple of days of big workouts and last a day or two, so it does seem a diet problem could be the main issue.

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Old 01-29-13, 04:19 PM   #932
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Correct!!!
I can peel the paint off off my car...
Yeah. Me too. I've been kicked out of the house at times. Okay, I will try it with just water from now on.
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Old 01-29-13, 04:21 PM   #933
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1g per per pound.
Rice milk is ok as it is non-dairy.
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Old 01-29-13, 04:22 PM   #934
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Yeah. Me too. I've been kicked out of the house at times. Okay, I will try it with just water from now on.
Correct and watch the change in your vascularity. Me legs are crazy looking when I am not in a growth stage (as I am now - though I am still crazy veiny)
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Old 01-29-13, 04:26 PM   #935
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Correct and watch the change in your vascularity. Me legs are crazy looking when I am not in a growth stage (as I am now - though I am still crazy veiny)
HOLY CRAP. This explains a lot.

I've always been a super heavy milk drinker my whole life. Over the last 6 months or so I've been limiting my milk intake more and more (was drinking 2 gallons a week of 2%). In the last 2 months I've barely had any at all, minus sometimes with some cereal in the morning. Thought it was just me leaning out (which I'm sure is part of it too, dropped 8 lbs) but I am so much more vascular it's not even funny. I have way way more veins.
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Old 01-29-13, 04:30 PM   #936
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OK here is another one for you guys (i.e. Robabeatle) when you are binging the way you are after a few days of hard workouts you naturally binge on carbs but in actual fact your body is craving protein. Up the protein and the cravings will start to go down.
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And you guys thought I was just another pretty face and full of crap...
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Old 01-29-13, 04:32 PM   #938
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Correct and watch the change in your vascularity. Me legs are crazy looking when I am not in a growth stage (as I am now - though I am still crazy veiny)
Good, if I'm not going to be grossing out Mrs. Caloso with the smell, I can at least gross her out with my veins.
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Who said anything about a pretty face?
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Will do rkwaki. Thank you once again and I am really hoping this helps with the cravings and keeping my weight in check.
I do know that this past Sunday I did not eat enough on the bike (almost 4 hours); I usually ride with perpetuum and some pro bars which contain a variety of carbs protein and fat. I had a large piece of cod and catfish afterwards but a few hours too late.
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Will do rkwaki. Thank you once again and I am really hoping this helps with the cravings and keeping my weight in check.
I do know that this past Sunday I did not eat enough on the bike (almost 4 hours); I usually ride with perpetuum and some pro bars which contain a variety of carbs protein and fat. I had a large piece of cod and catfish afterwards but a few hours too late.
I am working with my young teammate on his diet and on bike nutrition and based on his methods and much of what I have read here I might have to take some time tomorrow and refresh the group's memory of how to eat on the bike
Seems this is also like a mystery to many.
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You know you love me you veiny bastard...
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Old 01-29-13, 04:58 PM   #943
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I am working with my young teammate on his diet and on bike nutrition and based on his methods and much of what I have read here I might have to take some time tomorrow and refresh the group's memory of how to eat on the bike
Seems this is also like a mystery to many.
I would be very grateful as I consider myself as having an excellent diet. Now I realize that although I dont eat any junk and no treats (strawberries and melons are my dessert), my macro levels are out of wack.
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Old 01-29-13, 05:28 PM   #944
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And never EVER mix your protein shakes with milk.

In answering your question we have found Pro Complete V-Core for Complete Nutrition to be the best (and most expensive) other than that Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard is pretty goo and significantly cheaper.
Getting the right protein powder is important. The Walmart stuff or 'Pure Protein' stuff is crap. If I get the cheap stuff, the gas is just out of control. High quality protein powder and it's no big deal. I always mix with water, so that's not an issue. I put a scoop in my morning oatmeal that is made with either coconut or almond milk. I recommend Muscle Feast Protein blend (Hyro. whey, whey isolate, micellar casein in equal parts). For the money I think it's a complete winner.
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Old 01-29-13, 06:31 PM   #945
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2x20's on the TT bike.
Both exactly @ 24.6 mph. Limiting factor was definitely the position I'm not used to
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I have no problem with the Wal-Mart protein powder. It works fine for me.
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Old 01-29-13, 08:42 PM   #947
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I have no problem with the Wal-Mart protein powder. It works fine for me.
I use some stuff from Safeway. Or Target.

But the Safeway stuff tastes and mixes better for sure.
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Thursday - religion exam. rest.
Friday - chemistry exam. rest.
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Monday - Dad comes home randomly with Tacx Antares rollers . snow day which sucked because I missed an exam. but still rest.
Today - Physics exam (yesterdays). 2 hr endurance ride on rollers, first ride since last tuesday. Wow, I love rest weeks! HR was down by like 20-40 bpm from last weeks 2hr rides..I had a chest cold, and was growing, recipe for disaster (plus coffee).

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Old 01-29-13, 10:16 PM   #949
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Yeah mixing with milk will not only make you fat but give you think skin. Also harder for us old guys to digest without bloating and gas.

Yes Canuck you will be fat like me.
1) I imagine that water + protein powder would taste just, horrendus! I'll have to try it one day though I guess..

2) For the 2013 weight and mileage thread in the 41, I tried to cut down on crap that I eat (ie. bread, junk, chocolate, and just eat more fruit), it wasn't anything dramatic, but 3 weeks later (21st) I noticed that I've been gaining every week, reaching the highest weight I've ever recorded/seen. So I decided not to care anymore and eat whatever I wanted like I used to, and 1 week later measured 7 pounds less back to normal.....suck it. fatso.

Edit : I write this as I drink a big glass of milk and protein mmmmmm, tasty!
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I have no problem with the Wal-Mart protein powder. It works fine for me.
I think they sell the 'Body Fortress' name brand. It may have quite a bit less protein that you expect it to have according to this chart. http://www.musclefeast.com/protein-comparisons.html If it works for you, then good on ya, but I know that if I use some of the less expensive protein powders the volume of farts I get is ridiculous. Honestly, I'm all for a good fart joke and all, but it get's completely out of hand.
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