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    First Crit Race, CAT4/5. Started in the middle and was able to hold pace, then I could not feel any power to accelerate at every corner. Bike felt heavy, I look down and my front tyre is damn flat! My race ended in 10 minutes. We had a total of 5 flats the 5,3,2.

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    bummer. do it again!

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    1) find some cheap wheels to use as wheelpit/backup wheels
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    Got a call at midnight that our servers were down. It was an error by our alerting system, and it kept me up worrying that it would go off again. Probably had 4 hours sleep.

    So I skipped my workout; Its not really the fact that I'm dog tired but that my body still feels fatigued from my last workout. Do you guys skip days when you don't feel fully recovered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousferret View Post
    Do you guys skip days when you don't feel fully recovered?
    depends. listen to your body -- but i have found that there are many days where i feel tired/lousy/blah even during my warm-up and then things come around. it actually gives me confidence when racing to know that good efforts can come from legs that don't feel so fresh.

    a rest day is usually better than a poor workout, but my advice is to go spin the legs and warm-up when you feel bad. if you don't feel better, then pull the plug; however, you just might surprise yourself.

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    ^
    good advice.

    This morning, for example, I bailed on my 2x20 session to do a tempo ride. It ended up being a good call.

    Also - attempting a hard workout less then 12hr after a high-intensity track session is probably a bad idea for me most of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post
    I do.
    i do, too, and i'm not even from there!

    30' @ 160w for me today. sort of felt like a time trial, even at that power, but i was grateful to be riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousferret View Post
    So I skipped my workout; Its not really the fact that I'm dog tired but that my body still feels fatigued from my last workout. Do you guys skip days when you don't feel fully recovered?
    Often. I figure most cyclist, myself included, do too much, so as long as I don't have an A race around the corner, I skip and move workouts all the time based on how I am feeling. I have actually scrapped most of the last 2 weeks of training to try and redo my schedule and work in races and fix some odd feelings in my legs.

    Yesterday was an interval day that turned into one good interval and 2 crappy ones and done for the day way early. Today was a zone 3 ride to try and flush things out and I will try again tomorrow with intervals.

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    Folsom Bike race ride...meh. About a mile in, I flatted, looked at the tire and see that the sidewall is shredded. Throw in a boot, return to the shop, get a new tire and chase up the opposite direction (ride is a loop), and was able to get a some decent work in.

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    Valley Ride tonight.

    Legs feeling tired from the training crit yesterday, and the general CTL ramp I'm on. At least that's my excuse for coming in 2nd in two of the sprints.

    Some guy ate **** on a pinecone (or something) after the ride was winding down, where there were only 8 or so of us. I was right next to him and luckily didn't go down. He broke a collarbone, we waited around for the EMTs/police to come out. Poor guy!

    He took out someone one other dude, but luckily we weren't in the mix with the 50+ riders that make up the ride, it coulda been a lot worse!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexMac View Post
    First Crit Race, CAT4/5. Started in the middle and was able to hold pace, then I could not feel any power to accelerate at every corner. Bike felt heavy, I look down and my front tyre is damn flat! My race ended in 10 minutes. We had a total of 5 flats the 5,3,2.
    Bad luck! I've luckily never flatted in a crit, and only once in a race and once in a training crit. I still don't have a spare set of wheels for the pit. I've got a rear, I should really consider getting a cheapo fron wheel too. Or just borrow the one off my wife's bike... I literally just thought of that now... don't know why I haven't thought of it before!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattm View Post
    Valley Ride tonight.

    Legs feeling tired from the training crit yesterday, and the general CTL ramp I'm on. At least that's my excuse for coming in 2nd in two of the sprints.

    Some guy ate **** on a pinecone (or something) after the ride was winding down, where there were only 8 or so of us. I was right next to him and luckily didn't go down. He broke a collarbone, we waited around for the EMTs/police to come out. Poor guy!

    He took out someone one other dude, but luckily we weren't in the mix with the 50+ riders that make up the ride, it coulda been a lot worse!
    A pinecone?? Is that enough to cause a crash? Damn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetonrider View Post
    i do, too, and i'm not even from there!

    30' @ 160w for me today. sort of felt like a time trial, even at that power, but i was grateful to be riding.
    Awesome news!

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    new all time high 20min power yesterday! This is good as I have about a 13minute hill climb in a RR this weekend followed by a crit mid week and another RR the following weekend. Getting excited!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronmcd View Post
    Bad luck! I've luckily never flatted in a crit, and only once in a race and once in a training crit. I still don't have a spare set of wheels for the pit. I've got a rear, I should really consider getting a cheapo fron wheel too. Or just borrow the one off my wife's bike... I literally just thought of that now... don't know why I haven't thought of it before!
    Irony is i have plenty of wheels in my garage and never thought to bring a spare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetonrider View Post
    depends. listen to your body -- but i have found that there are many days where i feel tired/lousy/blah even during my warm-up and then things come around. it actually gives me confidence when racing to know that good efforts can come from legs that don't feel so fresh.

    a rest day is usually better than a poor workout, but my advice is to go spin the legs and warm-up when you feel bad. if you don't feel better, then pull the plug; however, you just might surprise yourself.
    Some of my best training days come on days when I felt like total crap before hand and really didn't want to ride. On the same note, it happens in races too. One race in specific, halfway through, a friend came up beside me and said, "how you feeling?" I said, "Like total crap man, just don't have it today." My legs felt totally blocked. But I rolled off the front with one other guy shortly after and we stayed away for 40 minutes and I got second. /shrug
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creatre View Post
    Some of my best training days come on days when I felt like total crap before hand and really didn't want to ride. On the same note, it happens in races too. One race in specific, halfway through, a friend came up beside me and said, "how you feeling?" I said, "Like total crap man, just don't have it today." My legs felt totally blocked. But I rolled off the front with one other guy shortly after and we stayed away for 40 minutes and I got second. /shrug
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
    loser
    Truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronmcd View Post
    A pinecone?? Is that enough to cause a crash? Damn!
    That's the only thing that slightly makes sense.. nobody knows wtf really happened but we were just cruising along and all of a sudden he lost his front wheel and laid it down.

    I always though if you hit one of those spherical pinecones(?) just wrong it could throw your front wheel off.

    Who knows, all I know is he had a bad day!

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    that valley ride last night was painful for me.

    yesterday total like 90mi, 6500ft, 4:40 ride time, and 3600kj.

    Just making it up to the tail of the first group on HorsePark was a little agonizing on the muscle-pain continuum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattm View Post
    That's the only thing that slightly makes sense.. nobody knows wtf really happened but we were just cruising along and all of a sudden he lost his front wheel and laid it down.

    I always though if you hit one of those spherical pinecones(?) just wrong it could throw your front wheel off.

    Who knows, all I know is he had a bad day!
    I know more than a handful of people who have crashed due to rocks/pinecones that are not-that-big. Issue with the pinecone is that if your wheel goes up on it and it rolls sideways it can displace your wheel a solid 3-4-5".

    Hell, I hit and almost crashed because of a #2 pencil that rolled sideways on me.

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    A few weeks ago we had a guy go down when a palm frond fell from a tree and into his wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousferret View Post
    A few weeks ago we had a guy go down when a palm frond fell from a tree and into his wheel.
    #caliproblems

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechemist View Post
    new all time high 20min power yesterday! This is good as I have about a 13minute hill climb in a RR this weekend followed by a crit mid week and another RR the following weekend. Getting excited!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechemist View Post
    new all time high 20min power yesterday! This is good as I have about a 13minute hill climb in a RR this weekend followed by a crit mid week and another RR the following weekend. Getting excited!
    Some guy named the 'thechemist' is planning 2000 tss worth of races next week, with zero concern of fatigue. Hmmmm

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetonrider View Post
    i do, too, and i'm not even from there!

    30' @ 160w for me today. sort of felt like a time trial, even at that power, but i was grateful to be riding.
    damn bro with all that hardware in your leg?

    I'm pretty sure I could do it but the most I've done was 60W for 20'.
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