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    Folsom Bike Race Ride. 30 miles with a couple moderate climbs, some rollers, then a fast return to the starting point.

    Still frustrated with this ride. I always blow up at the same spot. We open with about 10 miles of rollers at a relatively high pace, then hit a moderate climb (250-ft at 5%). After the hill, we drop down a quick descent then hit a 2 mile segment with 3-4 punchy hills (~100-feet at 5%) and a gradual climb (200-ft at 3.5%) to a regroup point. After the regroup, we drop down a steep descent, climb one last time (200-ft at 3%) and then take a fast downhill section (10 miles at -1%) to the shop.

    I'm good over the first climb, but get dropped on the punchy section and end up in a chase group. Not sure if I'm over exerting on the climb or if I just don't recover quickly enough to keep through the punchy section.

    Strava segment of the ride with the warmup section removed (~4 miles of flat/rolling terrain):
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    The section where I start to fall off is from mile 11-13 on the linked segment.

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    Going camping on the 20th for about a week. All training shall cease and resume when done, will be interesting to see what I lose and how quickly I get it back. I'm currently the strongest/fastest I've ever been.

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    Tuesday: race-did you know you only need 335 watts normalized to stay away from a field if you have a national champ to sit behind the entire time

    wednesday: 4 hours z2

    today: no eating 3 hours z1/z2
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    you will feel ike you lost some vo2 for about a week, and then you will be stronger when you return.

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    tendonitis is back. I guess I break down at about 16hrs/week these days. Sigh. Was just starting to feel good in races again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike868y View Post
    tendonitis is back. I guess I break down at about 16hrs/week these days. Sigh. Was just starting to feel good in races again.
    It could be scar tissue. When muscle gets injured the scar tissue does not remove naturally; it stays there. This may impede range of motion, muscle growth and repair, etc. Techniques like Graston and ART remove the scar tissue and help the muscle heal (so long as you don't remove the scar tissue prematurely). You could see an expert for help. I've done it myself for years now (which if you go down that path do some research) and after 2 torn achilles and another tendon tear, probably couldn't cycle without it.

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    After not riding for 5 days, then a combined 165 miles over 2 days and very little sleep, I slept 13 hours last night and am recovering today and probably tomorrow as well.

    Just noticed I'll race my 50th race later this month! Just trying not to think about how much the food, gas and reg fees cost me for 50 races in less than a year. Probably more than my bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousferret View Post
    It could be scar tissue. When muscle gets injured the scar tissue does not remove naturally; it stays there. This may impede range of motion, muscle growth and repair, etc. Techniques like Graston and ART remove the scar tissue and help the muscle heal (so long as you don't remove the scar tissue prematurely). You could see an expert for help. I've done it myself for years now (which if you go down that path do some research) and after 2 torn achilles and another tendon tear, probably couldn't cycle without it.

    could be, yeah. to be honest, though, once i let it heal this spring it seemed to be able to handle ~12-14hrs/week just fine. the issue only cropped up again after a string of hard 16-16hr/weeks. my plan right now is to let it heal up again and try to limp through the remainder of the season and explore options like gratson or art in the fall/winter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronmcd View Post
    After not riding for 5 days, then a combined 165 miles over 2 days and very little sleep, I slept 13 hours last night and am recovering today and probably tomorrow as well.

    Just noticed I'll race my 50th race later this month! Just trying not to think about how much the food, gas and reg fees cost me for 50 races in less than a year. Probably more than my bike.
    On top of the $30+ per race, too. I try not to think about it, but my wife sure keeps track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike868y View Post
    could be, yeah. to be honest, though, once i let it heal this spring it seemed to be able to handle ~12-14hrs/week just fine. the issue only cropped up again after a string of hard 16-16hr/weeks. my plan right now is to let it heal up again and try to limp through the remainder of the season and explore options like gratson or art in the fall/winter.
    It sounds like a classic overuse injury. Gaps in training with big blocks on either side. Back off and smooth things out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
    It sounds like a classic overuse injury. Gaps in training with big blocks on either side. Back off and smooth things out.
    yeah that's what i'm assuming it is as well. rest is the plan.
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    No racing today, so rode my first 100+ mile ride.
    Easy pace, climbing in Z2/3

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    did 3.5 hours today, dropped by fudgy on a climb and rolled around with another teammate.

    11.x hours for the week, 700-something TSS, a decent week.
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    I got pulled over for not staying to the far right on one of our mountain roads. Pretty annoying considering the hundreds of speeding cars and motorbikes on that road.

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    Surprised. Went out and set a 5 minute PR. I never thought I'd come close to my prior number again. Figured it was an anomaly.

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    1 hour recover ride, 13 TSS.

    Kept cadence around 100 rpm, felt good to spin the legs out.
    cat 1.

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    Shoot, you beat me - mine was 20 TSS.
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    i win 12 tss *****es!
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    broke yesterday's 5 min PR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsutkeepspining View Post
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    Calm down, Jessie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
    broke yesterday's 5 min PR.
    Wow, you should keep doing that daily until the Masters Pursuit Champs.

    It really feels good to break a PR though. I don't believe I ever will again.

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    I rode today for a bit over two hours. It was nice. I hope to do that again on Thursday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
    broke yesterday's 5 min PR.
    Very cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waterrockets View Post
    It really feels good to break a PR though. I don't believe I ever will again.
    Every day I set a PR about how old I am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsutkeepspining View Post
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    8 tss today for me

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