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    Quote Originally Posted by mattm View Post
    i just have a $20 "torque key" which just maxes out a 5nm. much cheaper than a fancy pants torque wrench, but of course more limited.
    I need 8-10Nm for the seat post, the highest torque key I can find goes up to 6Nm. Might just grab the Shimano Pro wrench that goes 0-15Nm. I'm sure there is some accuracy lost on the lower end, but I can supplement with a torque key.
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    Those torque keys are notoriously inaccurate. The park tool tw-1/tw-2 torque wrenches are only $40 and work great.
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    yeah, When I got my new bikes last year I bought a torque key for my seat post as recommended on the the frame and immediately broke the bolt. I use a size down instead now.

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    I inadvertently produced a near-textbook example of cardiac drift yesterday. The workout was 2:00 at endurance pace with 5x8' threshold intervals. If you want to chuckle over what passes for threshold for this geezer, it's here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revchuck View Post
    I inadvertently produced a near-textbook example of cardiac drift yesterday. The workout was 2:00 at endurance pace with 5x8' threshold intervals. If you want to chuckle over what passes for threshold for this geezer, it's here.
    That's not really what I would call cardiac drift. I would consider that fairly normal for a ride with threshold efforts in it, especially since the heart rate seems to climb along with the power climbing.

    This is more of what cardiac drift looks like: Bike Ride Profile | Solo Century near Mableton | Times and Records | Strava
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wylde06 View Post
    Hopefully I will get the chance tonight.

    Nope. Hard to do anything when you pretty much get pushed into the grass (it was either that or hit the rear wheel of the guy in front me as he adjusted his line through the turn..on the edge of the pavement) on the 3rd lap and get dropped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike868y View Post
    Those torque keys are notoriously inaccurate. The park tool tw-1/tw-2 torque wrenches are only $40 and work great.
    For the 3/8" wrench I have a CDI 1002NMRMHSS. 20-100Nm direct micrometer read. Made in the USA. On sale for $90.

    For the 1/4 I have the Performance Spin Doctor set. 1-24Nm non-micrometer direct read. Origin unknown but most likely offshore. On sale for $60. The extension is very handy.

    I also have a Ritchey Torque Key which I never use anymore and will sell eventually.

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    Just noticed that the Spin Doctor set is on sale today for 25% off.

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    I recommend buying an old Sturdevant-Richmont on ebay and using it for 50 years.

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    thanks for the sale and links @shovelhd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy View Post
    I recommend buying an old Sturdevant-Richmont on ebay and using it for 50 years.
    Old tools are great but finding one that reads directly in nM is tough and I wouldn't let it touch my bike before being calibrated. That's time and money. The CDI is built like a brick. Old school style. Will easily last 50 years.

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    inch pounds are fine. just print out a scale and keep it in your toolbox. it's gotten to the point where I have most of the values memorized anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revchuck View Post
    I inadvertently produced a near-textbook example of cardiac drift yesterday. The workout was 2:00 at endurance pace with 5x8' threshold intervals. If you want to chuckle over what passes for threshold for this geezer, it's here.
    Geezer power... Who would have known.

    I might call that more like aerobic decoupling where initially, you were not warmed up enough for the initial intervals plus increasing ambient temperature. Drift smift...it was a good effort.
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    During the TdF viewing of a TT stage, which is similar to watching paint dry, I tweaked my back scrubbing the kitchen floor. Much yoga posing for stretching and cold packs ensued. Lately I have been imbibing gin with olives and a bit of vermouth as a muscle relaxant. Perhaps tomorrow I can get in a training ride.
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    set all-time power marks today from 1:15-2:00min, which is great given that I cracked super hard around 1:40.

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    I happen to have my $20 Ritchey logic 5nm torque key at work so I tested it on a calibrated meter and measured 4.8 - 5.1 nm on each of about 6 tests. Maybe I just I got lucky and got a good one, but that seems pretty accurate to me.

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    Accidental, short, flat, wind-aided KOMs.
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    Many power PRs the past 2 weeks and weight is down. Anyone else assume that the PM is reading high when they PR? or is it just my self doubting pessimistic outlook haha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideaz View Post
    Many power PRs the past 2 weeks and weight is down. Anyone else assume that the PM is reading high when they PR? or is it just my self doubting pessimistic outlook haha!
    go climb somo and see for sure. actually, that's too flat and wind-aided. just keep doing it!

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    with all this talk of torque wrenches, be sure you take the time to learn how to properly use it. that may vary with the model you select. i've seen plenty of people break parts by thinking the torque wrench would magically protect them from over tightening things.

    hint: setting one's wrench to 6nm for a 6nm part then hitting 6nm and checking it a few times (e.g., the next day or before a race) can easily cause one to go beyond 6nm.

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    100 squats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy View Post
    inch pounds are fine. just print out a scale and keep it in your toolbox. it's gotten to the point where I have most of the values memorized anyway.
    i find if one gets to the point of memorizing those conversions they probably don't even need a torque wrench any more.

    it's sort of like power: the more experienced one is, the more one intuitively knows what 300w feels like. same for 5nm, 8nm, etc.

    of course, sometimes one can be wrong.....

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    300w the day after a race sure feels a lot different than 300w during a race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetonrider View Post
    with all this talk of torque wrenches, be sure you take the time to learn how to properly use it. that may vary with the model you select. i've seen plenty of people break parts by thinking the torque wrench would magically protect them from over tightening things.

    hint: setting one's wrench to 6nm for a 6nm part then hitting 6nm and checking it a few times (e.g., the next day or before a race) can easily cause one to go beyond 6nm.
    I wish there was a better way. A clean bolt and a bolt slathered in oil, both tightened to 6nm will not be under the same tension.

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    Tuesday Night Worlds - I have a month and a half to get in the high-intensity stuff before cyclocross starts, and I think this qualifies. Very painful ride, thought I was going to hurl for much of it. Part of the problem is crap fitness, but Strava tells me that was the fastest I've ever done most of the hardest sections of that ride, so there's that. Tomorrow will be hill climb intervals. Is there a puking smiley?

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