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Old 11-28-14, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Wylde06
Do you plan on doing Tulsa Tough?
would be fun, but it really depends on how the closer NCC crits go.

that'd be a long way to travel for 39th! (but I'd travel for <15th)

ToAD would be neat too.. we'll see.
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Originally Posted by mattm
would be fun, but it really depends on how the closer NCC crits go.

that'd be a long way to travel for 39th! (but I'd travel for <15th)

ToAD would be neat too.. we'll see.
Ive gone out there twice...80th 87th the first year, 62nd and a dnf last year. I may have sucked it up completely but I had a blast.

I plan on going again...hopefully I will be able to do a better job prepping for it, because it really is a fun race. One day I would like to do the Friday race...but I gotta learn how to race in the 4s first!
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i could either do my workouts outside in mid 30's weather with 10 mph wind; or hop on my rollers and ride on the porch. not sure which one would be better...
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Pshaw, mid 30's is awesome this time of year. Sack up and murderify.
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Gave up on waiting for weather to improve, since it's too late for roads to improve before daylight ends. Decided to flip with tomorrow's gym workout, drove over, and... Gym is closed.

Plan c, trainer and rollers. Always a bummer when I'm not working during all of the daylight and still can't get outside.
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pretty cold here - mid-50's! and a little cloudy.

gonna wait until it hits 60f then go ride. #calisoft
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And now, TKP seriously considers moving to cali.
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the land of a 4-year long drought and potential earthquakes

and i'm going outside for my ride. That roller session was going to be outside regardless, but there is some snow on the ground. SHould be manageable (famous last words...)
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it's 23 degrees outside. I'm going to skip the 3 hours of roller time todya and enjoy a nice 4 hour ride tomorrow in 40 degree weather.
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80 degrees here, zero wind, and no one on the mtn. !!
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Originally Posted by echappist
the land of a 4-year long drought and potential earthquakes

and i'm going outside for my ride. That roller session was going to be outside regardless, but there is some snow on the ground. SHould be manageable (famous last words...)
Yeah but, it's November and in the 50's. And it will remain in the 50's, because paradise.

Besides, it's not like we aren't ransacked by hurricane, arctic whatchamahoosies, RIDICULOUS heat waves with taint level humidity, and hipsters, on the regular.
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Old 11-28-14, 02:25 PM
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You forgot the vortexes. Vortices. Whatever.

Today's workout was XC skiing with the wife. Beautiful day! Sunny and 28F here, but we could see it snowing on the Catskills.

There's a genuine base down in the Gunks. Hard to believe I was riding my cross bike on these trails 3 days ago.

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Right, those things too.

4 seasons as seen in the Hudson Valley are 15 months of freezing winter, 8 months of absurdly hot and humid summer, and roughly 1-3 weeks in between these seasons where the temperature is just right, but that's when all of Brooklyn comes out to Instagram.
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Originally Posted by Wylde06
I plan on going again...hopefully I will be able to do a better job prepping for it, because it really is a fun race. One day I would like to do the Friday race...but I gotta learn how to race in the 4s first!
I plan to be there next year. I will race 3-5 times depending on how ambitious I feel.
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Originally Posted by globecanvas
I plan to be there next year. I will race 3-5 times depending on how ambitious I feel.

This time I will have to make sure to actually find you!
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Originally Posted by jsutkeepspining
it's 23 degrees outside. I'm going to skip the 3 hours of roller time todya and enjoy a nice 4 hour ride tomorrow in 40 degree weather.
That's what I was doing, but the damn gym was closed!

Actually not sad I avoided the gym the day after Thanksgiving, right up there with the first couple weeks of January among frustrating fitness center days.
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Had failed to complete a 20' test yesterday, completed it today.

A measly 281w for 20' (4.08 w/kg) - I'll never make the TdF with this kind of power!!

I've done 308w on this same climb for 20' a year ago, so there is still room to improve. Hoping to get past that before the season starts, luckily there is time. Also reminding myself I did just fine without a monster FTP last season, so not all is lost even if this is truly my limit (or close to it).

Was at -70 TSB after the last base block; I thought the numbers were exaggerated but I guess they were a bit low! (ftp currently estimated at 285w, which is apparently a tad high for where I'm actually at)
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Four hours on the road easy, 1500 kj's.

75-80 degrees, somewhere in there.
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Originally Posted by mattm
Had failed to complete a 20' test yesterday, completed it today.

A measly 281w for 20' (4.08 w/kg) - I'll never make the TdF with this kind of power!!

I've done 308w on this same climb for 20' a year ago, so there is still room to improve. Hoping to get past that before the season starts, luckily there is time. Also reminding myself I did just fine without a monster FTP last season, so not all is lost even if this is truly my limit (or close to it).

Was at -70 TSB after the last base block; I thought the numbers were exaggerated but I guess they were a bit low! (ftp currently estimated at 285w, which is apparently a tad high for where I'm actually at)
That's identical to the numbers of my last test; minus .03 w/kg. I was a lot happier about it than you are!
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Originally Posted by furiousferret
That's identical to the numbers of my last test; minus .03 w/kg. I was a lot happier about it than you are!
its not a terrible number really - I just get dismayed because I race guys that weigh the same as me and have a 380w ftp.. and they're good at crits too! I get in breaks with them where I'm dieing 1k deaths and they said it was easy lol.
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yea but how great is your sprint? my ftp might be 4.8 but my max 5 sec is only like 14.6. I can't really tell you how jealous I am of dudes that can sprint.
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Originally Posted by mattm
its not a terrible number really - I just get dismayed because I race guys that weigh the same as me and have a 380w ftp.. and they're good at crits too! I get in breaks with them where I'm dieing 1k deaths and they said it was easy lol.
Right, we race in different worlds. For me, those numbers are close to what I need, but really its 1 minute power that needs to improve. That's only 475w / 6.9 wkg, which is not even close to cutting it.
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yea but how great is your sprint? my ftp might be 4.8 but my max 5 sec is only like 14.6. I can't really tell you how jealous I am of dudes that can sprint.
16.7 w/kg - but honestly I don't think racing is about peak numbers in training, or peak numbers in general.

It's about being able to suffer, and/or recover and go hard again after suffering. (luckily - or else I'd still be a cat 3 probably, if that)
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84 miles, 7000 feet, 5 hours moving and 273 TSS

Rolled an hour Z2 to meet up, started with a 30' Z4 climb, regroup, hard fast descent followed by 11' Z4 climb

Some more endurance/tempo. Then I was riding moderately hard down a -2% grade, hit a slightly wet spot around a wide corner and went down at 35 mph. Slid quite a ways but everything is fine but my helmet and gloves. Car behind me stopped, rider behind car almost went down on the wet patch but managed to save it. I guess I gave good warning LOL.

Finished p with a 25' SST climb, and some easy riding back into town and home.

Quite chilly today, I'd guess 50s all day.
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Dang, Aaron, glad your helmet and gloves were the only casualties! You need to buy a lottery ticket before you go to sleep.
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