Training Status??? (III)
01-29-15, 10:52 AM
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01-29-15, 11:27 AM
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i'm gonna refer to my workouts with a serial number followed by the person who instructed me to do them.
so today i got two sets of Rex09_Rev_2 intervals, and Saturday i got a single set of Rex75_Rev_1 interval. I like my workouts meta so i can complete my metamorphisis into a beast on the road
so today i got two sets of Rex09_Rev_2 intervals, and Saturday i got a single set of Rex75_Rev_1 interval. I like my workouts meta so i can complete my metamorphisis into a beast on the road
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01-29-15, 11:41 AM
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For one thing, what we're calling ZCIs are not all-out 5 minute intervals, so just calling them 5 minute intervals is kind of non-specific. For another thing, saying the ZeCanon was plagiarizing is a bit much; he never took credit for inventing them, just liked them and posted on how to do them.
Having a workout named after a long-gone forum member who by his own admission had nothing to do with the protocol is silly.
And for one final thing, what makes a "WRI" is the pacing of the 1-minute interval, specifically doing them as an all-out sprint and fading all the way to the end instead of trying to hold a steady 1-minute max power. Whether someone else came up with this way of pacing a 1-minute interval before waterrockets or not isn't really the point, the point is that he figured out that this pacing method was very effective for him and advocated for it a lot. In fact, I never recall him claiming to have invented this style of pacing, I remember him saying that what made him think to try pacing that way was seeing how track riders paced a kilo.
FYI the pacing strategy was published in 1999.
Determination of optimal pacing strategy in track cycling with an e... - PubMed - NCBI
01-29-15, 11:53 AM
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Well form might not have been a correct word. More of a fitness level so I can ramp up intensity. I am going to Germany at the end of July so season will be cut short also. I would like to do some races there, but I am having hard time figuring out what is the equivalent of amateur racing here.
01-29-15, 12:11 PM
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I just tried that virtual island thing. Pretty fun for the first 20 minutes. After that the other players just sort of got annoyingly in the way and I stopped looking at them.
It did make a 1 hour 60 TSS trainer ride go by a lot faster than usual. Maybe the way to get the benefit of a structured workout with the distraction value of the game would be to design the workout around the game features. Like, I did one full island lap at Z4 to try to get a little more structure than what you might get from a real life hammerfest, you could do something like 4x10x1 pretty easily, or just do the sprints and the climb, or something.
Apparently the real Jani Brajkovic was there. And the real Grumpy McTrumpy too.
It did make a 1 hour 60 TSS trainer ride go by a lot faster than usual. Maybe the way to get the benefit of a structured workout with the distraction value of the game would be to design the workout around the game features. Like, I did one full island lap at Z4 to try to get a little more structure than what you might get from a real life hammerfest, you could do something like 4x10x1 pretty easily, or just do the sprints and the climb, or something.
Apparently the real Jani Brajkovic was there. And the real Grumpy McTrumpy too.
01-29-15, 09:58 PM
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Tempo ride with some sprints tossed in. Hit some new power numbers which is great because all I've been doing is threshold lately.
01-29-15, 11:38 PM
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I did 6x5' intervals at 105% of FTP with 1' rest. Wow, that takes too long to say.
01-30-15, 12:17 AM
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2 hours easy on the trail. Quad was tight towards the end but its getting better. I may even be in decent for for UCLA RR in 2 weeks.
Weighed myself post ride, 152. Didn't want to but went out for drinks and steak with coworkers which meant I wouldn't hit the 140's
. The steak was awesome though and had a good time.
Weighed myself post ride, 152. Didn't want to but went out for drinks and steak with coworkers which meant I wouldn't hit the 140's
. The steak was awesome though and had a good time.
01-30-15, 09:52 AM
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1.5hrs spinning legs out.
01-30-15, 10:18 AM
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Something of a PR on my recovery ride yesterday. 1:31, average HR 88 bpm.
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01-30-15, 11:58 AM
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01-30-15, 11:59 AM
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Recovery ride for me too. 90' of z/1-z/2.
01-30-15, 12:37 PM
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2 hours of Z2 on XC skis. Conditions could not have been more different from yesterday, when I did 10 miles wth 1600 feet of climbing in the same amount of time. Today was 6 miles, 800 feet, and a higher average HR. 10F warmer meant the snow was super grabby. Great for climbing, pretty frustrating otherwise.
Still, there's no such thing as a bad day in the snowy woods.
Still, there's no such thing as a bad day in the snowy woods.
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01-30-15, 01:13 PM
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Rolled around this morning, felt less sick, oddly strong, and cold-sweaty.
Was glad to see fudgy so I could stop hammering and roll with him, planning out our race strategies for tomorrow. (the gist of which is to survive the chaos)
Was glad to see fudgy so I could stop hammering and roll with him, planning out our race strategies for tomorrow. (the gist of which is to survive the chaos)
01-30-15, 01:13 PM
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I do not miss SPSS.
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My p(ee) values are directly proportional to my c(offee) i(ntake)
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Nah, SPSS is actually useful haha