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Training Status??? (III)

Old 02-14-15, 06:59 PM
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Raced 2 crits back to back. PM said it was only 150tss, but it felt much harder.
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Man, I didn't expect to feel like a slacker for "only" doing 2 1/2 on the trainer.
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First ride with my Power 2 Max Type S. Pretty sure it reads higher than my Powertap. Felt good to see higher numbers during an interval.
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Originally Posted by caloso
Raced 2 crits back to back. PM said it was only 150tss, but it felt much harder.
Back to back is always tough.
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Old 02-14-15, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunbar
First ride with my Power 2 Max Type S. Pretty sure it reads higher than my Powertap. Felt good to see higher numbers during an interval.
My understanding is that crank-based powermeters usually read higher than PTs due to energy lost in the drivetrain. I just put an SRM on my TT bike, curious to see how that works out as compared to my PT.
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Old 02-14-15, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bmcphx
felt like ass today on the group ride, all week I have been riding but also feeling weak and a bit sick, dunno what to do short of taking some time off the bike, but I felt utterly miserable and couldn't generate power today.

Maybe someone can give a pointer here, I've ridden every day since last Monday, that's 12 days straight, admittedly much more than normal which is 5 days a week (about 12 hours) so perhaps I'm tired, but looking at my numbers I don't think I should be because it doesn't seem I've been going hard.

2/1 - 2/7 - TSS 558.5 according the numbers garmin is giving me
2/8 - today TSS 510 and am going to spin easy tomorrow for 1.5 hours

Granted, I know nothing of TSS, but based on what I read here it is possible that my body is just really tired? I'm having trouble getting motivated to even ride and today I couldn't hold 250w for more than about 4 minutes.
there is so much that TSS/CTL/ATL/TSB do not reflect. they are great tools, for sure, but they tell only a part of the story. if one's only job is to race & train, then i think they may be more meaningful than they sometimes are for the amateur athlete who has a job and often many other stresses in life.

i've been doing a bunch of testing on myself w/r/t "life stresses" and recovery, and i'm finding that my actual recovery is often disconnected from what my CTL/TSB would indicate. easy training days don't always correlate to improved recovery for me, and some big days (multiple big days in a row) don't always mean i'm depleted.

so--long-winded way of saying that if your body is giving you cues that you are feeling weak and possibly sick but TSS/CTL/TSB don't add up, go with your body's feedback & your instincts. trust that there is more that you inherently know than the fantastic-but-ultimately-incomplete picture created by a PMC.

what you posted has all the signs of being a bit fatigued. catching it now seems like it would do you a favor in the long-term.

when are you considering racing again?
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Old 02-15-15, 05:27 AM
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up and down the ladder again this morning.



12 hours and another 700 TSS

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Old 02-15-15, 07:27 AM
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12 hours (3.5 bike, 8.5 ski), 620 TSS.


All hours outside though!

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Old 02-15-15, 07:45 AM
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Rest week over. 11.5hrs, 6700kJ. Now comes build; gulp.
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Your rest week is my big boy week. Rest week coming up then I think I start build.
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Hoping for another 50-70tss later...sitting at 8:15 and 500 for the week right now..which is a pretty good week for me and anything else is mostly a bonus
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Originally Posted by gsteinb
Your rest week is my big boy week. Rest week coming up then I think I start build.
lol, but my TSS is about 280 and you somehow fit like 7-800 into that amount of time.
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Old 02-15-15, 08:33 AM
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700, yeah. 800? I'm not crazy.
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Waiting on the weather... hoping there will be a 2 hour window between when it gets above freezing and it starts snowing.
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8 hours this week, 554 TSS. Not bad for me, given that I missed one midweek workout, and it is all roller time.
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5 rides, 930 TSS, 13.5hrs, 230mi this week. My rides are not as hard as what, for instance gsteinb's or TKP's are, but my TSS seems relatively high. The calculation is the default TrainingPeaks calculation and I believe my FTP is set more or less accurately. All my rides are outdoors. I don't read too much into the numbers but I was curious what other factors might be behind this.
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Unless your workouts are harder than mine I reckon that tss is high. That's a big number on those hours.
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motivation: waning. only 8 hours this week and it's not looking like i've got the drive to ride the rollers today. and to think, 16-18 hour weeks were the norm for me back in the fall.

is it march yet?
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Old 02-15-15, 09:58 AM
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And yet you posted in the training thread, which means that on some level you want to ride them rollers.

Remember that basically everyone in the NE is feeling demotivated right now which means the workouts you do count extra since so many are throwing their hands up in the air and saying f this. Rent John Wick on amazon, that'll hold your interest. Reward yourself with a beer or cookies afterwards. You'll be happy you rode after you ride.
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i don't want to ride the rollers...i want to have ridden the rollers. whatever
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Take that back.
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I deleted the comment because it turned into an unstructured musing on what exactly makes good trainer watching, and the musing then failed to hold my interest.

Still, I thought John Wick sucked.
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It's a movie about a guy that flips ****s over his dog. It's like an updated version of Commando or any other crazy 80's action movie! C'mahhhhn
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