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Old 05-19-15, 09:27 AM
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It says I could lose 2-3lbs. I think I'll keep doing what I'm doing haha
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It tells me to lose another 50 pounds...LOL
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Right now I'm sitting about 18%, and about 8 lbs off race weight. I have some upper body mass from weight training, and that adds a few unnecessary lbs. My fat goes all to my stomach, so I don't look like some cool ex high school football player, but a pregnant dude.

Of course, the ppl at work say I disgust them since I complain about my weight and according to them, I am not fat. If you ask Vicenzo, Bjarne, or Alberto, I'm a disgusting pig. Pretty sure Chris Evans would say that as well, both the superhero and forumite, though I have the DJ beat.
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I've gained about 8 lbs in the last few months. About the same as I lost over the winter. But I don't think I'm any fatter, and I doubt my legs have an added 8 lbs haha. So where is it??
Anyway, 7x4 hill repeats this morning.
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Supposed to hit 3hrs light endurance today, might cut it short and/or lower intensity because I feel I can use more rest.
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Those race weight numbers seem about right. Right now I'm about 187 and it says I can be 178 to 185 (depening on which cog I turn for current fitness level). I kind of figured I'd be doing okay in the 180-185 range.
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I don't have the slightest idea what my body fat % is. If I put in 20%, the calculator gives me a target weight that is actually my mental target race weight. 20% seems sort of high though? I don't have any frame of reference for these numbers, except for the internet charts that all sort of seem to show 15%=fit looking and 20%=kind of soft.
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Wow, that RaceWeight tool was pretty spot on. I am trying to get just under 160 pounds. 158 was my goal and that is the number it spit out.

I'm currently sitting at 162-163, and I'm down about 5 pounds over the past two months, so I think I can get to the 158 number. And that would be a remarkable achievement for me.

I weighted 155 when I graduated from HS, and I think I had a 32 or 34 waist. I came back from my first semester of college pushing 190. (I went for the Freshman 40.) I graduated from college at 185.

Weight dropped to 175-180 after college until I got married. We moved to Texas, and I realized everything really is bigger there, including the people. At our first dinner out, I saw four of the fattest people I'd ever seen in my life sitting at one table eating off giant platters. They were not at a small table, but they made it look small. I looked at them, then at my wife, and said, "Tomorrow, we're joining a gym." And we did. I started lifting regularly then bought a road bike and started riding. I got my weight down to 154, right about the time I went to my 10-year high school reunion. I was probably the only person there who weighed less than when he graduated.

Since then, I've put on quite a bit of muscle and continued to slim down. I recently started buying 30 waist pants.

What I find most interesting about my weight is my belt. My senior year of high school, I bought a very nice leather belt that I still have. (I have had to repair it a couple of times.) When I bought it, I fit in the middle hole. At points in college, the largest hole was snug. Now, on the smallest hole, it's a bit big.
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I'm 158 at the moment, which is odd because I was really steady at 154/155 and 16% BF for about a year. So I feel fat lol My race weight says I should be 147 (I'm 5'10"), which I don't think I've been at since very early high school.
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Testing today. Pretty sure I'm going to screw it up. My past month of training has consisted of getting dropped by people much faster than me, so pacing for 20 minutes is just a question mark.
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Originally Posted by furiousferret
Testing today. Pretty sure I'm going to screw it up. My past month of training has consisted of getting dropped by people much faster than me, so pacing for 20 minutes is just a question mark.
calm dow, mikey.
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It's raining today, so a self-imposed day off (I've ridden almost 400 miles in the past two weeks, maybe I could afford to take a couple of days).

I did put my bike on the trainer so I could check some fit related things. I pretty consistently get tightness on the left side of my neck/trapezius (causing discomfort when I turn my head left), although sometimes it isn't too bad. Part of it is I just have pretty bad posture, and sitting in such a way (like on a chair) that gives me a rounded back, plus I need to work on my core and such. Also hope to get a legit fit done if/when I purchase a new bike
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So with the talk about weight, I didnt want to make a full new thread about it, but wanted to see if anyone had some pointers for me.

I started cycling to lose weight about 2 years ago and really caught the bug. I am now really wanting to get better at racing and really love the crits, was able to get my 10 races in, move out of the cat 5s and got 3rd in the state crit.

That being said, I know that I still need to lose another 20 pounds at least.

I started at 5'9" 240 pounds and am now down to 195 pounds (probably still considered "obese" but I am built pretty big with broad shoulders, so will never be a "climber"). I feel like I have hit a bit of a plateau. I know food really well, and am aware of what I am putting in my body, went to culinary school and was a chef for 10 years and am pretty good at eating well. I definitely have days with desserts at the end and feel I eat more then I should after a big hard race/ride, so that is a constant battle that I am trying to improve on every day. I have a goal to get down to 175 by January for the start of the next crit season so I do not make a fool of myself in the Cat 4's.

My question is this: What more should I be doing or adding in? The problem I have is that I need to eat a certain amount of carbs/food in order to fuel my training rides and hard group rides on the weekend. I typically ride 150-200 miles a week, and am really only losing maybe a pound a month over the last 3 where I was losing 5lbs a month for a while. I am finding it hard to be sure I have enough fuel for my rides and training, but to find myself in a calorie deficit at the end of the day and am just not dropping the pounds I want. I have a large amount of fat in my belly and love handle area, but my legs are extremely lean and strong (grew up playing soccer and have always had strong legs/thighs). What more can I do to drop the weight off of my mid section? I am starting to try to add more core work during the week to see if that helps, but am willing to work and try whatever, hell, I'll even run if that would help!

Thanks in advance!
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Hour and a half of basketball drills and intense full court scrimmaging last night. Ouch. Though except for some strange tendonitis feeling in my right foot I don't feel too bad today. I'm especially happy that my left knee seemed to hold together pretty well. Had a lot of fun.
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Originally Posted by shovelhd
I rode outside today for the first time since I trashed myself. 1:40 at what used to be recovery pace but is harder now with my Cat5 fitness. I tried to focus on just being out there in 80 degree weather. Cruising along on the flats at 21-22mph just taking in the scenes on the MUP. It was hard on my hand and shoulders but that was expected. I saved my last Yard Owl farmhouse ale for this day and it is sure going down nicely. Thanks GC!
Good to hear you are outside again. I saw you on Zwift the other night but I had just finished up. Keep on healing!
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Originally Posted by cyclingtolose
So with the talk about weight, I didnt want to make a full new thread about it, but wanted to see if anyone had some pointers for me.

I started cycling to lose weight about 2 years ago and really caught the bug. I am now really wanting to get better at racing and really love the crits, was able to get my 10 races in, move out of the cat 5s and got 3rd in the state crit.

That being said, I know that I still need to lose another 20 pounds at least.

I started at 5'9" 240 pounds and am now down to 195 pounds (probably still considered "obese" but I am built pretty big with broad shoulders, so will never be a "climber"). I feel like I have hit a bit of a plateau. I know food really well, and am aware of what I am putting in my body, went to culinary school and was a chef for 10 years and am pretty good at eating well. I definitely have days with desserts at the end and feel I eat more then I should after a big hard race/ride, so that is a constant battle that I am trying to improve on every day. I have a goal to get down to 175 by January for the start of the next crit season so I do not make a fool of myself in the Cat 4's.

My question is this: What more should I be doing or adding in? The problem I have is that I need to eat a certain amount of carbs/food in order to fuel my training rides and hard group rides on the weekend. I typically ride 150-200 miles a week, and am really only losing maybe a pound a month over the last 3 where I was losing 5lbs a month for a while. I am finding it hard to be sure I have enough fuel for my rides and training, but to find myself in a calorie deficit at the end of the day and am just not dropping the pounds I want. I have a large amount of fat in my belly and love handle area, but my legs are extremely lean and strong (grew up playing soccer and have always had strong legs/thighs). What more can I do to drop the weight off of my mid section? I am starting to try to add more core work during the week to see if that helps, but am willing to work and try whatever, hell, I'll even run if that would help!

Thanks in advance!
No need to start a new thread when one already exists:

https://www.bikeforums.net/33-road-bi...ng-status.html

Tough call on what to change other than increased calorie deficit (via less food or more work). Do you track your food accurately, monitor macro nutrients to make sure you're getting what you need? The answer to most any question will be "it depends" and it applies here as well.
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Originally Posted by cyclingtolose
So with the talk about weight, I didnt want to make a full new thread about it, but wanted to see if anyone had some pointers for me.

I started cycling to lose weight about 2 years ago and really caught the bug. I am now really wanting to get better at racing and really love the crits, was able to get my 10 races in, move out of the cat 5s and got 3rd in the state crit.

That being said, I know that I still need to lose another 20 pounds at least.

I started at 5'9" 240 pounds and am now down to 195 pounds (probably still considered "obese" but I am built pretty big with broad shoulders, so will never be a "climber"). I feel like I have hit a bit of a plateau. I know food really well, and am aware of what I am putting in my body, went to culinary school and was a chef for 10 years and am pretty good at eating well. I definitely have days with desserts at the end and feel I eat more then I should after a big hard race/ride, so that is a constant battle that I am trying to improve on every day. I have a goal to get down to 175 by January for the start of the next crit season so I do not make a fool of myself in the Cat 4's.

My question is this: What more should I be doing or adding in? The problem I have is that I need to eat a certain amount of carbs/food in order to fuel my training rides and hard group rides on the weekend. I typically ride 150-200 miles a week, and am really only losing maybe a pound a month over the last 3 where I was losing 5lbs a month for a while. I am finding it hard to be sure I have enough fuel for my rides and training, but to find myself in a calorie deficit at the end of the day and am just not dropping the pounds I want. I have a large amount of fat in my belly and love handle area, but my legs are extremely lean and strong (grew up playing soccer and have always had strong legs/thighs). What more can I do to drop the weight off of my mid section? I am starting to try to add more core work during the week to see if that helps, but am willing to work and try whatever, hell, I'll even run if that would help!

Thanks in advance!
Do you work with a coach? They can help in that area. If you're racing cat 5 races, you shouldn't be eating a ton leading up/after the races. A 30' crit or 40 mile RR won't even come close to burning through your glycogen stores.
One thing that I've found is that I can run on less calories that I thought, and that I was taking in way too many calories from mindless snacking throughout the day. Secondly, fasted rides do wonders for me trying to drop weight. I've recently dropped about 10 kilo's in 4-5 months while increasing my power slightly. However, I know my body well and can tell when I get to the point of eating too little and my recovery suffers so that is a tough game to play if you don't know your body and how you react that well.
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Originally Posted by misterwaterfall
Do you work with a coach? They can help in that area. If you're racing cat 5 races, you shouldn't be eating a ton leading up/after the races. A 30' crit or 40 mile RR won't even come close to burning through your glycogen stores.
One thing that I've found is that I can run on less calories that I thought, and that I was taking in way too many calories from mindless snacking throughout the day. Secondly, fasted rides do wonders for me trying to drop weight. I've recently dropped about 10 kilo's in 4-5 months while increasing my power slightly. However, I know my body well and can tell when I get to the point of eating too little and my recovery suffers so that is a tough game to play if you don't know your body and how you react that well.
Thanks, yeah I should have mentioned that I never eat anything different or more for a Crit, more for any of the 70 mile + rides/events.

What more can you tell me about fasted rides?
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Huh. I am trying to lose 5 pounds but raceweight.com says to just lose 3. Bonus!
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The Racing Weight tool is fun. At first I didn't notice the age option at the top. I went back and changed it from 20 to 40 and I get to be 5 lbs heavier! Score!
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The Racing Weight tool is fun. At first I didn't notice the age option at the top. I went back and changed it from 20 to 40 and I get to be 5 lbs heavier! Score!

I did the same thing. I'm not fat, I'm just old!
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Originally Posted by cyclingtolose

hell, I'll even run if that would help!
Whoa! Let's not talk crazy! jk.

What are your plans for the remainder of the year? If you are not planning to race again until January, then this is a good time to focus on weight loss. You can worry a bit less about fueling for training, assuming that you will not be putting in the really hard efforts that you do when you are prepping for races. It may take a bit of an experiment to see how much less fuel you can get by with, but you should be able to get by with a slightly higher calorie deficit in your "off season" or as one of the other guys said, do some fasted rides. Log all your nutrition for a few weeks and see where you may be eating more or less than you thought. I've got a couple of books that might help, one is called Ride Yourself Lean and I also have the Racing Weight book. You are welcome to borrow them, I can get them to you at a ride.
Above all, your riding has really improved! I hadn't been on a ride with you for a while and I was struggling to hold your wheel down Indian School last week. The weight loss may have slowed but you are still making big gains in your cycling, so don't get too disheartened.
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Originally Posted by rideaz
Whoa! Let's not talk crazy! jk.

What are your plans for the remainder of the year? If you are not planning to race again until January, then this is a good time to focus on weight loss. You can worry a bit less about fueling for training, assuming that you will not be putting in the really hard efforts that you do when you are prepping for races. It may take a bit of an experiment to see how much less fuel you can get by with, but you should be able to get by with a slightly higher calorie deficit in your "off season" or as one of the other guys said, do some fasted rides. Log all your nutrition for a few weeks and see where you may be eating more or less than you thought. I've got a couple of books that might help, one is called Ride Yourself Lean and I also have the Racing Weight book. You are welcome to borrow them, I can get them to you at a ride.
Above all, your riding has really improved! I hadn't been on a ride with you for a while and I was struggling to hold your wheel down Indian School last week. The weight loss may have slowed but you are still making big gains in your cycling, so don't get too disheartened.
Thanks a lot! Really appreciate it. Yeah, I think I am going to do more of that, I just get way too competitive with myself and wanting to keep up with others that I do whatever I can to be sure I can. Just need to back off a bit on food to get that calorie deficit back and try some of the Fasting riding.

I would love to check out those books, love reading and learning more!!
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Test went well, hit what I was expecting and not what I hoped. I'm at 3.6 w/kg* and hoping to hit 4+. I really just want enough aerobic power to be comfortable enough to sprint well at the end of a crit. Not sure what that is but I'm not there yet.

The frustrating thing about endurance sports is you rarely keep building. Its usually hit a peak, get hurt, sick, or time off and take two steps back only to have to build it back again the next year. If you're lucky you finish the year a step or two up from the year prior.

*Its not ewang if its under 4, its transparency.
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