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    What are Lance's other accomplishements in cycling?

    I realize that he's won the tour 6 times, many individual tour stages, bronze medal in '96, world champion in '93, etc., but what other events has he won? Does any body have a link to his offcial record, which would show wins and other podium places?

    It seems that since he came back from cancer, he only rides in the tour. His season begins and ends in July. When the tour wraps up, he calls it a day as well.

    I've heard he realizes this as well, and perhaps that's why he's apparently riding in more events this year. Will he run in the Vuelta and/or Giro this year?

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    Lance's Career Highlights

    2004
    1st Tour de France, six stage wins including the Team Time Trial
    1st Tour of Alrgarve stage win, 5th overall
    1st Tour de Georgia, two stage wins
    1st Midi Libre stage win, 6th overall
    3rd Criterium International
    4th Dauphine Libere
    23d Tour of Murcia

    2003
    1st Tour de France, two stage wins including the Team Time Trial
    1st Dauphine Libre, one stage win
    8th Amstel Gold
    20th Liege-Bastogne-Liege
    8th End of year world ranking

    2002
    1st Tour de France, four stage wins
    1st Midi Libre
    1st Dauphine Libre, one stage win
    2nd Criterium Internantional
    3rd Championship of Zurich
    4th Amstel Gold
    6th San Francisco Grand Prix
    2nd End of year world ranking

    2001
    1st Tour de France, four stage wins
    1st Tour of Switzerland, two stage wins
    2nd Amstel Gold
    2nd Classique des Alpes
    8th Setmana Catalana
    12th Tour of Aragon
    4th End of year world ranking

    2000
    1st Tour de France, one stage win
    1st GP Eddy Merckx 2-man TT with "Eki" Ekimov
    1st GP des Nations
    2nd Paris-Camembert
    3rd Dauphine Libere, one stage win, King of the Mountains winner
    3rd Olympic Time Trial
    3rd Classique des Alpes
    4th GP Gippingen
    7th GP Miguel Indurain
    13th Olympic Road Race
    4th End of year world ranking

    1999
    1st Tour de France, four stage wins
    1st Dauphine Libere stage win, 8th overall
    1st Circuit de la Sarthe stage win
    1st Route de Sud stage win
    2nd Amstel Gold
    2nd Ride for the Roses criterium
    7th Tour of Aragon
    7th End of year world ranking

    1998
    1st Tour of Luxembourg, one stage win
    1st Rheinland Pfalz Tour
    1st Ride for the Roses criterium
    1st Cascade Classic
    2nd First Union Invitational
    4th USPro Championship
    4th Tour of Holland
    4th Vuelta Espana
    4th World Time Trial Championship
    4th World Road Race Championship
    25th End of year world ranking

    1997 Lance joins Team USPS

    1996
    1st Fleche Wallone
    1st Tour DuPont, five stage wins
    1st Fresca Classic stage win
    2nd Paris-Nice
    2nd Liege-Bastogne-Liege
    2nd GP Eddy Merckx
    2nd Tour of Holland
    4th Leeds Classic
    4th GP Suisse
    6th Olympic Time Trial
    8th GP Harelbeke
    11th Milan - San Remo
    12th Olympic Road Race
    14th San Sebastian Classic
    17th Amstel Gold
    9th End of year world ranking

    1995
    1st stage win Tour de France, 36th overall
    1st San Sebastian Classic
    1st Tour DuPont, three stage wins
    1st Paris-Nice stage win
    1st West Virginia Mountain Classic, one stage win
    1st Tour of America race series
    2nd Thrift Drug Classic
    5th CoreStates USPro Championship
    6th Liege-Bastogne-Liege
    15th End of year world ranking

    1994
    1st Thrift Drug Classic
    2nd Tour DuPont, one stage win
    2nd Liege-Bastogne-Liege
    2nd San Sebastian Classic
    7th Tour of Switzerland
    7th World Road Race Championship
    25th End of year world ranking

    1993
    1st World Road Race Championship
    1st Tour de France stage win
    1st CoreStates USPro Championship
    1st Trofeo Laigueglia
    1st Thrift Drug Classic
    1st Tour of Galicia
    1st West Virginia Mountain Classic, two stage wins
    1st Tour of America series
    * Winner of $1 million Thrift Drug Triple Crown
    2nd Tour DuPont, one stage win
    3rd Tour of Sweden, one stage win
    5th Leeds Classic
    9th Paris-Nice
    14th Championship of Zurich
    21st End of year world ranking

    1992
    1st First Union Grand Prix
    1st Thrift Drug Classic
    1st Trittico Premondiale second leg
    1st La Primavera Tour, three stage wins
    1st Settimana Bergamasca stage win
    2nd Championship of Zurich
    8th Coppa Bernocchi
    12th Tour DuPont
    14th Tour of Galicia, one stage win
    14th Olympic Road Race
    17th GP Teleglobe
    * Signed with Motorola following Olympics

    1991 * Signed with Subaru-Montgomery
    1st US Amateur Championship
    1st Settimana Bergamasca

    1990
    5th US Amateur Time Trial Championship
    11th World Amatur Championship

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    All meaningless wins however, Lance is no Eddy Merckx!!!

    *lights incense *hums chant *idolizes Merckx photos

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    Quote Originally Posted by fight or flight
    All meaningless wins however, Lance is no Eddy Merckx!!!

    *lights incense *hums chant *idolizes Merckx photos

    You know, I'm sick of hearing about him, but those are NOT meaningless wins by any means. It's like having a favorite song that the radio just ruins by cramming it down your throat 15 times a day.
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    Merckx is the king, no doubt. If I ever have a boy, his name will be Eddy.

    But I don't think Lance has ever tried to act as if he's Eddy Merckx. He has more class than that. Have you ever placed in any of those races Lance has?

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    When he was 16, Triathlete named him the 1988 Rookie of the Year, saying he could become "one of the greatest athletes the sport has ever seen."
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    I saw him win the U.S.Nationals Road Race in Park City/Salt Lake City in 1991. That was OK, but what he did in the criterium that weekend was more amazing.
    He towed Jonas Carney to the front of the field and gave him the lead-out from hell.

    With one lap to go, Shaklee's guys were all over the front of the field. Somehow, though, LA and Jonas came out of the final turn with a huge gap on the field.
    LA pulled aside.
    Jonas sprinted away for the win.
    LA looks around quickly to find that he is all alone in second.
    He frantically zips up his jersey and holds on to take silver.
    The rest of the field squabbles over the table scraps.

    So he's no Merckx. And your point is?

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    How do we even know how he'll stack up to Merckx? Lance's career isn't over.
    Why is everyone so jealous or tired of hearing about LA?

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    I'm not jealous, I'm a huge fan of Lance. I'm very proud of him for many reasons, but too much of a good thing can ruin it. I hope he goes for the 1 hour record, I'll be 1st in line for tickets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EventServices
    I saw him win the U.S.Nationals Road Race in Park City/Salt Lake City in 1991. That was OK, but what he did in the criterium that weekend was more amazing.
    He towed Jonas Carney to the front of the field and gave him the lead-out from hell.

    With one lap to go, Shaklee's guys were all over the front of the field. Somehow, though, LA and Jonas came out of the final turn with a huge gap on the field.
    LA pulled aside.
    Jonas sprinted away for the win.
    LA looks around quickly to find that he is all alone in second.
    He frantically zips up his jersey and holds on to take silver.
    The rest of the field squabbles over the table scraps.

    So he's no Merckx. And your point is?
    That crit averaged over 50kmh. An awesome display.

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    sarcasm alert!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyefisher
    Merckx is the king, no doubt. If I ever have a boy, his name will be Eddy.
    I hope your last name isn't Munster.

    CHEERS.

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    He also won a goodly portion of the NRC when he was racing in the US. There's a picture of a rather chubby-faced Lance from the Fitchburg-Longso Classic in my office (he won that) and then there's USPro and that whole three race thing that won him a million bucks. Still all the guys I've met and talked to who raced against him call him an ******* (Best story being that Kristin Armstrong actually went back and paid a guy for wheel of his that Lance wrecked and refused to pay for).

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    Quote Originally Posted by FXjohn
    How do we even know how he'll stack up to Merckx? Lance's career isn't over.
    Ok, do you even know what Merckx accomplished?

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    His 11th place at the 1990 Jr. Worlds got him kicked out of high school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DieselDan
    His 11th place at the 1990 Jr. Worlds got him kicked out of high school.
    That's really interesting, I'd never heard that before (or if I did, I forgot it). Where did you learn that?

    Any way, I bet Lance is having the last laugh now. How much do you think that school would love to have him back as a speaker at graduation?
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    Lance's last year as a junior was 1989. I think worlds that year is the race that would have got him kicked out of high school. That was when he had first started racing the road. Apparently he rode on the front the whole race and tore the field apart. I'm not sure what place he got. The criterium in 1991 that has been referred to was no joke. Two of my former teammates got third and fourth (they were on different teams at the time). They will admit that there was a considerable gap between them and Lance but I wouldn't call the results "table scraps".

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    Quote Originally Posted by HigherGround
    That's really interesting, I'd never heard that before (or if I did, I forgot it). Where did you learn that?

    Any way, I bet Lance is having the last laugh now. How much do you think that school would love to have him back as a speaker at graduation?
    That's in his first book, and the school is the infamous East Plano High. According to his book, you won't see any mention of him attending EPHS.
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    you can't compare Merckx and Armstrong. They raced in two different eras. When Merckx was racing he had to race more races because that was how he made money. Armstrong gets paid through endorsements and for accomplishing one goal. Merckx has also said he raced more races to make more money for his teammates. If Merckx raced in the modern era, his approach would have been different. I'm not saying he isn't the greatest cyclist of all time, because he is. But to say that Lance should race the way Merckx did makes no sense.

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    just an added thought: maybe the reason people want to see Lance try to race like Merckx is because some people want to see him succeed so we can have some personal ownership of the greatest cyclist of all time, while others want him to fail because they don't like him or are old school cycling fans.

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    The most impressive thing about Merckx's career is not just the number of times that he finished first in a race. It is the astounding percentage of races that he won. In many of his races, 80 or 90 of the best bike racers in the world were in the field. To win 10% of the time against the best in the world would be astounding. Yet, in his best years, he was winning 20% or 30% of the races he entered.

    Lance, on the other hand, has won rather few "top" races, OTHER than the TDF, when he was competing against the strongest riders in the world. His career "winning" percentage, OTHER than the TDF, does not rank him among TODAY'S top five riders, let alone the top five riders of all time. He is a bit like an opera singer who is the best in the world at singing one role (and there are opera stars making a good living doing just that).

    If Merckx was riding today, would he ride less races? Probably. Would he treat a race as just "training" for the Tour de France? I doubt it. If he entered a race, he was racing to win.

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