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    Quote Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
    Just remember that true sprinters may not be pulling your chain, they may be at the limit just hanging onto the break. It's up to you how hard you want to work to get rid of him.
    This.

    Quote Originally Posted by Creatre View Post
    Always remember if it looks like the break is going to stick, guaranteed 3rd is better than being back in the pack!
    Also, this. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

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    Creatre - you planning to race Fouche Gap next month? Any TN races?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creatre View Post
    Always remember if it looks like the break is going to stick, guaranteed 3rd is better than being back in the pack!
    true enough

    as for me, i need upgrade points, so i really don't care, but at a certain point i wonder if it may be worth it to call the bluff. Though to be honest, whom am i kidding? i am a even-paced rouleur with no sprint; so if it's hilly, i'd be with the front group and if it's flat, i sure as hell ain't gonna finished 3rd sprinting from the field...

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    Why does anyone "need" upgrade points?

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    Quote Originally Posted by robabeatle View Post
    McDowell Crit Mens 5:

    Carnage fest from the start: guy in front of me couldn't clip in and got wobbly at the start taking down another rider, dude flew off his bike into a cholla just before a sharp turn (cholla is not to be messed with!), etc. etc.
    Glad to have come away in one piece and I think top ten, though I didnt stick around for results.

    Getting more experience...
    Teammate was taken out of the 50+ in the last lap, but he missed the cholla and is okay. I missed it this year (nursing fractured ribs), but was run into the sand last year trying to go around people for the sprint when there wasn't really quite enough room. I avoided the cholla, however. I grew up in San Diego, where there is also lots of Cholla. I have 1337 cholla avoidance skillz.
    "If you're riding less than 18 MPH up a 2% grade please tell people Coggan is coaching you."

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    Quote Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
    Why does anyone "need" upgrade points?
    i didn't realize i was in a class for semantics...

    fine, i want ​upgrade points. better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
    Why does anyone "need" upgrade points?

    because i want to get paid to do this silly sport
    cat 1-o-meter: wtf am i doing??????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post
    They are resident to California also.
    Yeah. I recognized it when I saw the picture, but I just knew it as a kind of cactus.
    Cyclists of the world, unite! You have nothing to lube but your chains!

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    I need speed AzTallRider's Avatar
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    This shows why we always called it "jumping cactus": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfjV4BbXfZU
    "If you're riding less than 18 MPH up a 2% grade please tell people Coggan is coaching you."

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    Quote Originally Posted by echappist View Post
    i didn't realize i was in a class for semantics...

    fine, i want ​upgrade points. better?
    It's not semantics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsutkeepspining View Post
    because i want to get paid to do this silly sport
    Then what you need are good hard work and some luck. The points will take care of themselves.

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    i work hard, and i have luck. Hopefully the points will take care of themselves.

    Also my post was half jest, i'm not stressing over points. I would like them, but i know that i have a tiny bit of time before i need to start crying that i don't have my 1 upgrade!

    I should be racing in a week, but honestly i'll probably miss the race just due to not wanting to drive 3 hours to race while trying to catch up on missing assignments (i've missed far to many days this month due to sickness/model un/other school ****, so i have like 5 tests to make up. I also have to miss a couple more days if i'm thinking of the right date). Oh well t'is life. <3 u all, you stupid mother duckers
    cat 1-o-meter: wtf am i doing??????
    Quote Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post
    You're not dumb. You're just less smart.

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    Sounds like you have your priorities straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post
    Call me Renshaw.
    Did he just receive a Cadillac?

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterrockets View Post
    Did he just receive a Cadillac?
    Team car. I give good lead out.

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    Might be missing mineral wells... All my buddies are bailing and too expensive to go it alone. Poo.
    I'm sure when you were getting to the point of blowing nothing was obvious but making the pain stop...I don't know about you but after the fact I always look back at those moments and think 'why didn't I just keep going' but at the time there wasn't enough oxygen on the planet to make me take one more pedal stroke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnybutts View Post
    Might be missing mineral wells... All my buddies are bailing and too expensive to go it alone. Poo.
    Sean Kelly would ride up, do the race, then ride back. It's a Hollinger production. You should go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
    It's not semantics.
    sorry, but do please indulge me as i'm a bit dense right now. i think i know what you are saying: that the points are results of good racing. But still, if i want to upgrade, then I want points. Don't really see why you are getting hang up on a word

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    Quote Originally Posted by echappist View Post
    Don't really see why you are getting hang up on a word
    Hung.

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    Want and need are two different things. There's nothing dense about that. Do your work. Race smart. The points will come when you are ready to upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post
    Hung.
    Mr. Modesty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
    Mr. Modesty.
    Dirk Diggler was a composite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post
    Team car. I give good lead out.
    Nice. I've seen one of those before too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
    Want and need are two different things. There's nothing dense about that. Do your work. Race smart. The points will come when you are ready to upgrade.
    that's fair enough. To be honest, i probably haven't paid my dues yet as i've done a grand total of 9 races at a Cat-4...

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    one can want whatever they want. what they'll get, however, is often what they deserve (and usually related to race intelligence and hard work). some folks think hard work = crushing themselves at all possible times (in workouts and in races).

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