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Old 11-22-13, 08:04 AM   #826
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lol just saw rwaki's post previous to mine. Love the irony.
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Old 11-22-13, 08:09 AM   #827
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Why is this?
Very simple, make you fat (though you don't have this issue) and gives you thick skin....
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is anyone on here a nutritionist by education and certification of some sort (i.e. not a self appointed expert)?
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Old 11-22-13, 08:29 AM   #829
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I believe rkwaki is. A certified BFD and BAMF. Bachelors of fine dining and bachelors of anabolics and muscle fibers
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is anyone on here a nutritionist by education and certification of some sort (i.e. not a self appointed expert)?
No, but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night.
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FWIW, the guy who wrote the Cycling Tips article is, in Australia

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2012/04/protein-for-cyclists/
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You mean BFD isn't Big Effin' Deal and BAMF isn't Badass Mutha...?
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I cannot respond to this post or I will be in the penalty box...

It would appear that rockets has told chappy some things and he used those letters to describe body parts...
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Old 11-22-13, 09:01 AM   #834
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is anyone on here a nutritionist by education and certification of some sort (i.e. not a self appointed expert)?
**** no and I really believe some of them have no idea. I have seen some of the plans written by nutritionists that absolutely amaze me. My assistant showed me one written by a lady with a PhD and sold for some good dollars. It was astounding to see the plan she wrote. Less than 900 calories a day, predominantly fats and carbs...
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logical fallacy: because one might not know her ass from her elbow does not mean no one does, and we should resort to nutiritional anarchy.
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logical fallacy: because one might not know her ass from her elbow does not mean no one does, and we should resort to nutiritional anarchy.
I'm glad we are on the same page...

You are correct, shouldn't generalize but my experience has been that many of them put plans together based on textbook methods rather than real world experience.

The really good ones are hard to find and very expensive yet very good.
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I bought a few of the Systema "Shaker To Go" containers that have a fixed bladed impeller top. Pretty impressed with the mixing quality, along with the overall quality and design. Much better than the ball agitators.
I just use the empty cup, half full. Everything else is extra washing. I have used this with syntha 6, muscle milk, ON, others. As long as there is room to shake, mixing has never been an issue.
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I'm glad we are on the same page...

You are correct, shouldn't generalize but my experience has been that many of them put plans together based on textbook methods rather than real world experience.

The really good ones are hard to find and very expensive yet very good.

My real world experience differs pretty greatly from yours.
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The idea that you must have a degree in something to be educated in that something is very un-libertarian.

And if we collect enough anecdotes, we'll definitely have the data for which we're looking.
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My real world experience differs pretty greatly from yours.
Consider where i live
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The idea that you must have a degree in something to be educated in that something is very un-libertarian.

And if we collect enough anecdotes, we'll definitely have the data for which we're looking.
A few thoughts:

Not everyone is a libertarian.
If you want to have political discussions there's a forum for it.
No one actually said what you're expressing: 'you have to have a degree to know about something.' What was insinuated was that the advice that is frequently shared on these forums flies in the face of the advice of trained experts. Which is actually a pretty different thing.
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A few thoughts:

What was insinuated was that the advice that is frequently shared on these forums flies in the face of the advice of trained experts. Which is actually a pretty different thing.
Being an actual certified nutrition "expert" is about as hard as finding a scantron, a #2 pencil, and $50.

Here is a list of 1000 different certification boards, all happy to collect a check.

Anecdotes are not data, but all of us have enough basic nutrition knowledge to have survived this long. Any tweaks we incorporate from listening to others anecdotal successes are just little self-experiments.

I always take a little umbrage with the idea that formal education is the only education. It's a side effect of working where I do.
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Of course, as usual, you've missed the point.
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The important thing is to know the buzzwords. Throw them around and mix and match, when the actual experts find out your full of it, their replies will be drowned in the applause of the minions.
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Very simple, make you fat (though you don't have this issue) and gives you thick skin....
there are 30Cal in a serving of almond milk, how does drinking it with protein make you fat?

i pretty much only use almond milk in my oatmeal but sometimes use it to mix my protein to make it taste better and to actually use the 1/2gal before it goes bad.
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there are 30Cal in a serving of almond milk, how does drinking it with protein make you fat?

i pretty much only use almond milk in my oatmeal but sometimes use it to mix my protein to make it taste better and to actually use the 1/2gal before it goes bad.
Just based on personal experience...


But then again I have learned that Chinese Buffets make you fat too...
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Just based on personal experience...
going to go ahead and assume you were drinking cow milk which obviously will make you fat. that's the whole PURPOSE of milk.
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Being an actual certified nutrition "expert" is about as hard as finding a scantron, a #2 pencil, and $50.

Here is a list of 1000 different certification boards, all happy to collect a check.

Anecdotes are not data, but all of us have enough basic nutrition knowledge to have survived this long. Any tweaks we incorporate from listening to others anecdotal successes are just little self-experiments.

I always take a little umbrage with the idea that formal education is the only education. It's a side effect of working where I do.
There's actually also this thing called science, where folks with MDs and PhDs study such things as protein synthesis and quantifiable muscle growth along with 'waste' of protein. Most studies of higher intake levels of protein still put me a minimum of 30 grams below what's thrown around here. I'm cautious and concerned that such things become accepted as standard and fact without greater exploration and knowledge of the potential risks.
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There's actually also this thing called science, where folks with MDs and PhDs study such things as protein synthesis and quantifiable muscle growth along with 'waste' of protein. Most studies of higher intake levels of protein still put me a minimum of 30 grams below what's thrown around here. I'm cautious and concerned that such things become accepted as standard and fact without greater exploration and knowledge of the potential risks.
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