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    Quote Originally Posted by Creatre View Post
    That's a pretty good start. Other than the specifics you mentioned, but many fish including salmon/tuna/trout, etc not just sardines. And same for peanut butter, anything in the nut family basically, almonds, walnuts, flaxseed, etc.
    thanks creatre! yea, I forgot about nuts. I need to go back out to costco and get a big box of them to snack on. Love salmon, good calls thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousferret View Post
    I have stalled as well on my weight loss, its just harder getting those last few pounds. My theory is, even though our weight goal may be x, we are happy with y and the motivation to eat right flutters.
    You need to give yourself a cheat day. Give yourself 60 minutes and eat whatever the heck you want. It will fire up metabolism again. Do it once a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thechemist View Post
    thanks creatre! yea, I forgot about nuts. I need to go back out to costco and get a big box of them to snack on. Love salmon, good calls thanks
    I love to snack on nuts as well, as long as they are not too salty......






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    what's the downside to saturated fats if LDL isn't a concern?

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    Cancer?

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    huh. I wonder how much is "too much". I've been ignoring the type of fat and going with whole-fat yogurt and cottage cheese and 2% milk to get more fat into my diet, but dairy is mostly saturated. But I don't really eat much red meat at all..

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
    Cancer?
    Not likely.

    Saturated fats aren't 'essential', like the omega fats. Our bodies can and do make saturated fats. It has a high energy density, so it's easy to get too many calories. In general, though, naturally occurring saturated fats have been given a badrap because poorly designed studies initially lumped natural and man-made fats together. Grass-fed beef tallow is a much better thing than, say, Crisco.
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    Saturated fat consumption is associated with increased cancer risk. However, the added risk is probably not due to the fat itself but instead due to the preparation methods. It just happens that we like to prepare fatty meats in unhealthy, yet delicious, ways. Nitrates and Nitrites in preserved meats, and PAHs and HCAs from grilled meats are not good for you.

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    It is winter and my genes are mostly Baltic with some Slavic, so tomorrow I am making cabbage rolls. It is in the blood.

    No ground pork, though. I like to use ground beef and ground pork in a 2 to 1 ratio for the filling. I explained to Spawn1 about one year ago about how smart pigs are and now he has gone semi-kosher. He has no problem with lamb, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thechemist View Post
    anyone have a few more good fat source suggestions?
    sardines,eggs,milk, coconut oil,avacado(occasionally), olive oil, peanut butter are pretty much what I am running with at the moment.
    Grass-fed butter or ghee, grass-fed beef tallow, red palm oil, olive tapenade (& olives in general), hemp hearts, bacon (no preservatives), lamb, ground flax seed are good options. Nuts are often pretty heavy in omega 6 fats. Macadamia nuts are an exception with about a 6:1 ratio and a lot of mono's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Boy View Post
    Grass-fed butter or ghee, grass-fed beef tallow, red palm oil, olive tapenade (& olives in general), hemp hearts, bacon (no preservatives), lamb, ground flax seed are good options. Nuts are often pretty heavy in omega 6 fats. Macadamia nuts are an exception with about a 6:1 ratio and a lot of mono's.
    Thanks fatboy!

    As I side note, just discovered zayconfoods.com
    prices do very but I am getting boneless,skinless chicken hormone free and fresh for 1.89$ lb


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    Quote Originally Posted by thechemist View Post
    Thanks fatboy!

    As I side note, just discovered zayconfoods.com
    prices do very but I am getting boneless,skinless chicken hormone free and fresh for 1.89$ lb


    -end shill sorry
    Did you buy 40 lbs? It seems that the meat only comes in cases of 40lbs. Looks like a great site though

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechemist View Post
    Thanks fatboy!

    As I side note, just discovered zayconfoods.com
    Good stuff, thanks for shilling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramercy View Post
    Did you buy 40 lbs? It seems that the meat only comes in cases of 40lbs. Looks like a great site though
    Yea, I'll freeze some of it of course but I do have a big family.

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    My boss left about a pound of Butterfingers, Milky Ways, M&M's, and Hershey's bars on my desk just to antagonize me....

    Since I'm new to this racing thing, when should I start not dieting prior to a race? I have the UCLA RR on the 15th which is about 3,000 feet of climbing in 25 miles and I'd like to go in as light as possible.

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    For one thing, I think most of us obsess over weight way too much. (I do most flatter races and crits, so weight is the least of my worries.)

    If you're actually doing a really climby race and want to lose weight for it, which it looks like you are, it seems like that dieting process should've started months ago.

    Whatever you do in the next two weeks won't make that much difference, I don't think..

    So my vote is live a little - and by that I mean eat a bunch of sugar so you die sooner! =]

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    He is already dieting and is wondering if he should "start not" aka stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattm View Post
    For one thing, I think most of us obsess over weight way too much. (I do most flatter races and crits, so weight is the least of my worries.)
    Ain't that the truth. To answer FF's question, give yourself a few days of a calorie surplus prior to a big race. It'll help you recover from your previous training and load you up on glycogen. Even if you're eating an extra 500-1000 calories/day, you still won't pick up even an extra pound and you'll like feel a hell of a lot better.
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    and just to make it clear, a "calorie surplus" doesn't mean you get to splurge on candy. just eat more of the healthy stuff you're already eating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enthalpic View Post
    He is already dieting and is wondering if he should "start not" aka stop.
    Right, I'm down 31 pounds since August.

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousferret View Post
    Right, I'm down 31 pounds since August.
    That's pretty awesome. The deal for your race is that you want to be as strong as possible, not necessarily as light. You'll be better off if you're 1/2 a pound heavier and feeling good as opposed to 1/2 a pound lighter and low energy.

    Once the race is over, though, it's right back to running a calorie deficit if you want to lose that last bit of weight.

    And, unfortunately, Mike is right. Don't eat junk when you ramp up your intake. It's not a 'cheat', it's a planned energy surplus to prepare for a race. There's a difference.
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    Really great read from Cameron Cogburn about his preparations for the Mt. Washington climb/race, a lot which concerns weight/dieting/climbing, etc. http://www.ccbracing.com/content/mt-...imb-case-study

    On that note, definitely looking forward to seeing how he does this year.

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    Cooking two meals tonight.

    One is a Cornish Pastie with a radicchio/young greens salad with an olive oil/shallot/tupelo honey/sherry vinegar dressing. My wife is taking it over to a friend's house where she (the friend, not my wife) is going through chemo.

    At home it is a yellow rice pilaf and lamb kebabs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousferret View Post
    Right, I'm down 31 pounds since August.
    I'd stop about 3-4 days before the race. Don't eat so much you bounce back up 5lbs of water retention, but eat enough that you feel rested and sleep well and go into the race with full stores.

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    what do you guys think of whey protein 20g 2 times a day(once in the afternoon/morning and once post ride)?

    Right now I'm doing about 40g of whey post ride only.

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