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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    "best racing" and "nascar?"
    Does not compute.
    Attack in the feeling because it says I'll win absolutely.

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    Elitists are like cockroaches. A little spilled PBR and out of the woodwork they come.

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    spilled pbr? not cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
    Elitists are like cockroaches. A little spilled PBR and out of the woodwork they come.
    umm, i believe you are actually talking about hipsters

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    Hipsters have moved on to Rolling Rock, leaving the PBR for us old men who were drinking it before those poseurs were born.

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    rolling rock at the horseshoe bar... good times.

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    In Southport?

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    pbr was the first beer i ever had. And being from Pa i had plenty of rolling rock back in the day. Now ive come full circle back to pbr.

    but hipsters ruin everything-
    Last edited by hammy56; 02-21-13 at 08:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandro View Post
    Does not compute.
    Did you get the short straw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
    In Southport?
    ave b & e 7th.

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    nyc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
    That was probably DW. He's been hit on the head too many times. NASCAR's Gary Busey.

    Try letting your F1 elitist guard down and watch Daytona for a bit. Listen to the racers, not the commentators.

    But to you, that would be like watching paint dry.

    If you don't get it, you don't get it.
    Daytona is like watching a Cat5 industrial park crit. There will never be a breakaway, there will be a big crash and the last lap will decide the winner. Honestly, the restrictor plate races don't do a whole lot for me. It's a difficult thing to do, no question, but I don't think it's much to watch on TV. Like I've said, in person is somewhat different.

    I do like to watch the short-track stuff. The shorter the better. A lot more comes into play and you really see who has their **** together.

    You might be surprised how many F1 refugees are in NASCAR. There's more money for a lot of team members in NASCAR than there is in F1 or other high levels of Euro racing, so the ones that can migrate west. F1 has _way_ more money per team, but they act like it's some sort of treat to spend 18 hours a day 350 days a year working on a car and don't want to pay. NASCAR has the work/life thing figured out a little better. It's still crazy, but at least it's liveable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Boy View Post
    Daytona is like watching a Cat5 industrial park crit. There will never be a breakaway, there will be a big crash and the last lap will decide the winner. Honestly, the restrictor plate races don't do a whole lot for me. It's a difficult thing to do, no question, but I don't think it's much to watch on TV. Like I've said, in person is somewhat different.

    I do like to watch the short-track stuff. The shorter the better. A lot more comes into play and you really see who has their **** together.

    You might be surprised how many F1 refugees are in NASCAR. There's more money for a lot of team members in NASCAR than there is in F1 or other high levels of Euro racing, so the ones that can migrate west. F1 has _way_ more money per team, but they act like it's some sort of treat to spend 18 hours a day 350 days a year working on a car and don't want to pay. NASCAR has the work/life thing figured out a little better. It's still crazy, but at least it's liveable.
    Kinda like robo-wookie's women
    "if you ride it the way it's meant to be ridden there's no way any wife is less of a ***** than a bicycle." - gstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    ave b & e 7th.
    Thanks. I shuddered thinking that you and I could have been in the same bar decades ago and never knew it.

    I will put that place on my list the next time I'm in the city, if it still exists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
    Thanks. I shuddered thinking that you and I could have been in the same bar decades ago and never knew it.

    I will put that place on my list the next time I'm in the city, if it still exists.
    The city or the place?
    "if you ride it the way it's meant to be ridden there's no way any wife is less of a ***** than a bicycle." - gstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    ave b & e 7th.
    I asked because I use to frequent a place on 7th and b or c, cant remember...it was either called "7C's, or 7B's...

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    same place.

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    heh...no chit.

    that was my 'stomping ground'...down the street were the others- the village idiot (country bar), psycho mongos, the spiral bar, downtown beirut (punk rock bar).

    the memories are blurry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
    Did you get the short straw?
    Did you?

    I was agreeing with botto's sentiment that having 'best racing' and 'nascar' in the same sentence does not compute.
    Attack in the feeling because it says I'll win absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammy56 View Post
    heh...no chit.

    that was my 'stomping ground'...down the street were the others- the village idiot (country bar), psycho mongos, the spiral bar, downtown beirut (punk rock bar).

    the memories are blurry.
    a pennsyltucky redneck like you lived in new yawk and survived to talk about it?

    shockin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    a pennsyltucky redneck like you lived in new yawk and survived to talk about it?

    shockin'
    I lived in Philly and B-more as a warm-up...but boy do I have stories. LES in the early 90's...good times. I think.

    surely nowadays its a very hip place. I bet you fit right in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammy56 View Post
    I lived in Philly and B-more as a warm-up...but boy do I have stories. LES in the early 90's...good times. I think.

    surely nowadays its a very hip place. I bet you fit right in. ; )
    you should have seen it in the 80s.

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    I did...but didnt live there until 91-92.

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    around the time i left.

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    I'm pretty new to this stuff, but I've had decent luck getting in breaks in RR's. These are mostly CAT4 or masters, so take that for what it's worth. At the start, I typically know of a couple guys that are strong and highly likely to initiate or bridge to a break. If they go up the road, I'll follow or blow up trying. Beyond that, I try to stay in the top 5-7 places and selectively chase. If I've feeling good, I'll chase anything with 3 guys or more. Less than that, and I might chase if I'm feeling good and want to stretch the legs or with the hope to motivate others to join. When I've initiated early breaks, it's never hard, just powering off the front for a while and getting some heat in the legs.

    For those that say 4/5 races don't have breaks that often, I've seen more in the 4/5 road races I've done compared to masters. That last 3 4/5 RR's I did were all won with a break away. I made 2 of them and was in the first chase group in the 3rd. I have no shot at a sprint, so I'll kill myself all day long trying to get into breaks. Once I'm there, I'll work my but off unless I can see the group is unwilling or unable to make it happen.
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