Phonak banned from Pro Tour...
11-13-04, 12:21 PM
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Phonak banned from Pro Tour...
Following the Camenzind, Hamilton and Perez doping cases the UCI decided today that the Phonak team is not allowed to start in the Pro Tour the coming season.
11-13-04, 01:23 PM
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WOW, Wada don't F around do they.....
11-13-04, 01:45 PM
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I know how to read Dondee.....
Since the UCI signed the WADA code, the pressure comes from up on high..
Since the UCI signed the WADA code, the pressure comes from up on high..
11-13-04, 01:52 PM
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Will the team disband? Who will go where, Even if Tyler and Perez somehow get off the hook, will anyone hire them?
11-13-04, 02:41 PM
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I've searched but can't find the story anywhere.....what's your source?
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11-13-04, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Smoothie104
I know how to read Dondee.....
Since the UCI signed the WADA code, the pressure comes from up on high..
Since the UCI signed the WADA code, the pressure comes from up on high..
PS Angelo was a Dundee, but I am a dondi.
Appreciate it.
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11-13-04, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 2Rodies
I've searched but can't find the story anywhere.....what's your source?
Can you read Spanish? It's in there.
11-13-04, 04:20 PM
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Velonews has a slightly different take on it...https://www.velonews.com/news/fea/7201.0.html
Phonak not among teams receiving 'favorable sanction' for '05 Pro Tour
Phonak not among teams receiving 'favorable sanction' for '05 Pro Tour
11-13-04, 05:33 PM
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"However, ARcycling AG - Switzerland's Phonak team - didn't make the cut at this stage and the Swiss team has to address some key issues before the panel will punch its ProTour ticket." - cyclingnews.com
It's not over yet. That said, I'd really like to see Kelme get a ProTour spot.
It's not over yet. That said, I'd really like to see Kelme get a ProTour spot.
11-13-04, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Smoothie104
Will the team disband? Who will go where, Even if Tyler and Perez somehow get off the hook, will anyone hire them?
BTW, source is Dutch television (Verbrugge quote). The team managment will have the opportunity to defend itself on November 22 but chances are small.
11-13-04, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by koffee brown
Too bad for Floyd Landis. He just got hired by them! I wonder what he'll do now. :-/
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11-13-04, 11:02 PM
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Well, Floyd signed a contract to ride for Phonak. But if Phonak is allowed to roll out with a peloton, he can't really ride for Phonak can he? With decent legal representation, he should be able to wiggle out of that deal without a scratch. Question is, where does he go from there?
11-14-04, 12:59 AM
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Are the 2 Grand Tours other than the Vuelta even in the Pro Tour, I thought LeBlanc and co didn't want the TdF in it.
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11-14-04, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by gcasillo
Well, Floyd signed a contract to ride for Phonak. But if Phonak is allowed to roll out with a peloton, he can't really ride for Phonak can he?
11-14-04, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Devil
"However, ARcycling AG - Switzerland's Phonak team - didn't make the cut at this stage and the Swiss team has to address some key issues before the panel will punch its ProTour ticket." - cyclingnews.com
It's not over yet. That said, I'd really like to see Kelme get a ProTour spot.
It's not over yet. That said, I'd really like to see Kelme get a ProTour spot.
Cofodis is waaaaaayyyyyyy worse than this. Other than Camenzind (EPO), there are no drugs here, not that transfusions is a whole lot better. And a number of questions about the tests....but it still smacks of pressure to get a result in a season that was not good for Phonak. Thus the pressure to remove the current group running the team. Once that's done, they'll be in.
Kelme cannot get in due to their not being able to meet the financial requirement. They can barely afford riders (don't they still owe back pay?) and surely cannot afford a development team, another requirement for getting in.
11-30-04, 07:06 AM
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Phonak fired Hamilton today in a last ditch attempt to be allowed on the 2005 Pro Tour, but it didn't work. UCI announced today that the Pro Tour will start without Phonak but with the ASO races (TdF, Roubaix, Liège-Bastogne-Liège, Tours, Paris-Nice, etc.). ASO confirms, stating that they will join the Pro Tour to "prevend the cycling world from a serious crisis."
11-30-04, 08:22 AM
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This is a huge blow to the sponsors. Phonak has now gone from the penthouse to the outhouse in one season.
Tyler and Perez better have an incredible story, but it still won't make up for the Camenzid gaf. Of course, he is retired, far from the chaos he contributed to.
Personally, I don't presume for a moment that Phonak is guilty by association in the Camenzid affair. I doubt if any connections will be made with the other two. Best to remember cases like Millar/Lelli and Simeoni/Ferrari which were perpetuated outside the respective team doctor's oversight.
To bad.
Tyler and Perez better have an incredible story, but it still won't make up for the Camenzid gaf. Of course, he is retired, far from the chaos he contributed to.
Personally, I don't presume for a moment that Phonak is guilty by association in the Camenzid affair. I doubt if any connections will be made with the other two. Best to remember cases like Millar/Lelli and Simeoni/Ferrari which were perpetuated outside the respective team doctor's oversight.
To bad.
11-30-04, 08:27 AM
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Media reported five doping cases with Phonak over the last two years. Does somebody know which cases they mean, presuming that Camenzind, Hamilton and Perez are the last three?
11-30-04, 09:23 AM
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www.cyclingnews.com reported in a F Landis interview that Floyd can opt out of his contract if Phonak is not granted a PT license. This would be a no-brainer for him, but he'd still have to find a ride for '05.
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...loyd_landis042
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...loyd_landis042
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Think Discovery'll take him back? 
Kinda feel bad for Floyd, actually... Hope he doesn't have to sit on the sidelines for a whole year... I doubt he will, but who knows...
Kinda feel bad for Floyd, actually... Hope he doesn't have to sit on the sidelines for a whole year... I doubt he will, but who knows...
