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Old 06-18-13, 11:20 AM   #26
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Still I genuinely don't know what a training crit is.
Per USAC: "(f) Training Race Series Permit ľA training race series is a sequence of race meets of the same kind conducted on a regular basis at the same location, time, and day of the week. State Championship series are NOT eligible! A prize list of less than $499 per day may be offered. The fee for 1-3 days is $50.00. The fee for 4-30 days is $100. All riders must be licensed and sign waivers. Organizers pay $3.00 per rider per day for insurance coverage."

Also, around here, training crits generally mean lapped riders aren't pulled. They are noted by the race official and are allowed to slide back into the field to continue racing, assuming everyone is riding safely.
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Old 06-18-13, 11:24 AM   #27
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I don't know what 'this is BF' means outside of you trying to get some bearing on the fact that you're in your browser on a forum and not facebook or your email client. Still I genuinely don't know what a training crit is. This is a weekday race he's going to. Guys are pinning on numbers to win. Same as races every other day of the week.

It is a weekday crit on a less technical course with the option to jump back in where you are not pulled. It is also significantly cheaper and equally as competitive. Happy?
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Old 06-18-13, 11:30 AM   #28
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Windy! it gets really windy out there and yeah the roads are pretty bad, there are usually a bunch of people flatting out. The tuesday nights are usually the bigger course and thursdays use the smaller one. Usually the youre riding into the wind on the back side of the course and riding with it when you come down the start finish straight so it makes for some fast sprints. Idk what cat youre in but the 5s generally do 5 laps out there on tuesdays. Personally I think its a pretty fun race, if you work a 9-5 its almost like two races if you count trying to get down there in time to race.
I'm a Cat 6 and I'll be definitely busting my butt trying to get to the meetup from midtown.
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Old 06-18-13, 12:23 PM   #29
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I'm a Cat 6 and I'll be definitely busting my butt trying to get to the meetup from midtown.
haha gl man hope you make it down there, it sucks to just miss the start (from experience, I also come from midtown)
say whats up if you notice me out there, Ill be in a white/yellow hincapie jersey with a yellow helmet on a caad10 racing 4s.
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It is a weekday crit on a less technical course with the option to jump back in where you are not pulled. It is also significantly cheaper and equally as competitive. Happy?
Not happy or unhappy. I apologize that things here don't conform to your conception as to how they should be. Perhaps we'll work on that.
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lol
Good luck with that.
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The only training crit around here I can think of is Orr Rd. It's weekly, free, P/1/2/3/4/5/6/W and probably illegal.
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Old 06-18-13, 02:16 PM   #33
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dobrado you might wanna keep an eye on their fb page here....

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Regio...566715?fref=ts

as of now the race is on, but it floods pretty easily out there so they might cancel with this rain.
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From FB

Regional Orthopedics Tuesday Race Series: We will have another update at 4:30
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btw, FBF isn't a crit. It's too long. Categorized as a circuit race.
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race is canceled.
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Per USAC: "(f) Training Race Series Permit –A training race series is a sequence of race meets of the same kind conducted on a regular basis at the same location, time, and day of the week. State Championship series are NOT eligible! A prize list of less than $499 per day may be offered. The fee for 1-3 days is $50.00. The fee for 4-30 days is $100. All riders must be licensed and sign waivers. Organizers pay $3.00 per rider per day for insurance coverage."

Also, around here, training crits generally mean lapped riders aren't pulled. They are noted by the race official and are allowed to slide back into the field to continue racing, assuming everyone is riding safely.
pin on a number and it's a race
training is what I do at group rides
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pin on a number and it's a race
Agreed, but how about when there are no numbers? Our training races are very casual; they manually record the top three places and give them small gift certificates. Otherwise, "No results, upgrade points, prizes or muffins."
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Yep, race was canceled due to flooding! I wonder what the weather looks like for next week?
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btw, FBF isn't a crit. It's too long. Categorized as a circuit race.
Thanks for that; I didn't know! I've got quite a bit of reading to do between now and next week.
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haha gl man hope you make it down there, it sucks to just miss the start (from experience, I also come from midtown)
say whats up if you notice me out there, Ill be in a white/yellow hincapie jersey with a yellow helmet on a caad10 racing 4s.
I'll keep an eye out for you next week (if you're going); I'll probably be wearing bright green jersey, neon helmet and glasses, or a blue castelli jersey with black shorts on a Black/Red (fast!) Trek.
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Yep, race was canceled due to flooding! I wonder what the weather looks like for next week?
chance of thunderstorms on Tuesday. Get used to it.
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Agreed, but how about when there are no numbers? Our training races are very casual; they manually record the top three places and give them small gift certificates. Otherwise, "No results, upgrade points, prizes or muffins."
Tonight's training race is like that except add on a few primes. There is an official recording but no results are sent to USAC.
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pin on a number and it's a race
training is what I do at group rides
Oh, they are races. And some people/teams take them very seriously.

But for newer racers who are struggling in cat 5 races, the "training" races around here are great because if they fall off, they can recover and jump back in, trying to stay in the field a little longer each week without having to worried about being pulled.

Also, I posted the USAC comment because USAC classifies training race series differently, resulting in lower payouts and costs to promoters. That's the biggest distinction.
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I raced a different training crit last night. SM4,SM5,SW4,and SW3 in my race. Towards the end the peleton was about a third the size with everyone else scattered throughout the course. It was good pack training in a wide open course. Some folks take it very serious. Some don't. BFD
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btw, FBF isn't a crit. It's too long. Categorized as a circuit race.
this is true for the tuesday race, the thursday series is considered a crit (if you care which one youre getting yourself into)

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chance of thunderstorms on Tuesday. Get used to it.
sigh... so typical recently, and when its sunny are the days I have a hard time making it there from work. cant win.

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we don't really do 'training crits' on the east coast. Racing is racing. This is would be what one would consider a training crit (except it's a circuit) in other parts of the country.
Incorrect. Southern New England Summer Training Series every Tuesday night on the Bethel course.
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Montague and the Rent are both training criteriums.
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Incorrect. Southern New England Summer Training Series every Tuesday night on the Bethel course.
I didn't think that was a "get dropped and jump back in" race
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So...it rained again yesterday.

At 11:30pm (meaning that I should have chanced it instead of assuming it would be rained out again). I think I'm just gonna try to do a Saturday morning race instead of the Tuesday evening one.
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