Who else is doing this??
Looking forward to NOT starting on the back of the 110-rider cat 2 field in the crit, ugh.. fun course though.
I wanted to give it a go, but it's a pretty far drive for me to go get dropped on those climbs at elevation
There are some great views though after you get dropped!! I know b/c it happened to me last year..
Also 5,000 ft isn't that much elevation. Sure I noticed it but I don't think my performance on the climb would've been much better at sea level. The crit didn't feel any harder than a regular sea-level crit, it's at only 3,600 ft or so.
And with a 20% time cut you'd have to have a mechanical or something to not make the cut.
Mostly I'm going for the crit, and also to do better than last year on the first and stages. It was a great experience, a fun race. I recommend it.
i'll be there! love cascade.
off to hood soon!
I'll be doing it!
on the fence. not too excited about not having a 35+ field, and having to race in a 3/4 field. also was under the impression there was more climbing, looks like the road race only has 3K spread over 70 miles. it does look like all of that elevation gain comes in one climb at the end, is that right?
See the profile here, on the "Maps" tab: http://www.cascade-classic.org/usac-.../usac-stage-1/
It's no Gila, but I think it's enough of a climb to create a selection if that's what you're looking for.
thanks for the feedback. its kinda of interesting, i've noticed that in the 35+ field here in norcal most of the fast guys are 40+. gives me something to strive for.
is that because you want to live for another year, or because you want to get out of metcalfe's age group?
Sweet, the TT course is new for this year, no more climb! I'm sure many are saddened by this but I'm not.
Lose Metcalf, gain Nolan and Thurlow. Thins the herd otherwise though.
Living another year...you have good years and bad years. If it's a year I spend in a diaper having some Latvian nurse blow smoke in my face while he blathers on about Lindsey Lohan as he's shooting my IV full of Chinese knock off painkillers that are really anti freeze...I'll pass.
Last edited by Racer Ex; 07-11-13 at 11:23 PM.
be positive: you earned the right to compete in that category and you have a shot at all 4 stages!
Then I got dropped on stage 1 (on the last climb) and came in about 80th place, came in about 80th place in the TT (as expected), started on the back in the crit and came in 27th, and got dropped a few laps into the circuit race and came in something like 60th (finished a few laps solo otb). So it was disappointing to say the least.
That's why this year I don't have high hopes for any of the stages except the crit. Considering my power numbers aren't much different than they were last year, I'm not sure how I can expect to all of a sudden be a better climber/etc. Part of it could be positioning going into the climbs for sure though, and I'm going to pay more attention to that this time around.
So, I'm focusing on the one stage that I actually have a chance in, and the rest would be nice but I'm not setting myself up for disappointment this time around. It's not that I'll be soft-pedaling any of the stages, just not expecting a lot out of the other ones.
The new TT course is so much different than Skyliner. Couple little bumps on the backside and a couple sharpish corners is all. Times will be in the 18s for sure Teton. The course was just used this last weekend during the High Desert Omnium and the top cat 1/2 time was 19:00.88.
Skyliner Rd is so bad right now, it gets worse every year. There are plans to repave it and make some wide bike lanes and I thought that was supposed to happen this year but nothing has started yet. It gets a ton of bike traffic so that will be nice.
Come on Matt - Attack going up Sparks. It's just the cat 2 field, not like your racing masters or anything
there is a difference between expecting to win and keeping an open mind that it is possible. using terms like "surviving" has a negative connotation and is defeatist. perhaps you are just using it for effect here and don't really feel that way. i hope that is the case.
you may not have different power numbers (maybe you have better repeatability?), but i bet you are smarter. you know the courses and have more races under your belt. getting to that climb fresher may mean the difference between cresting it with the lead group vs getting dropped.
for reference, i finished 3rd on stage 1 in the 3s last year (after leading a chase to catch a break) but then got dropped on the same course for masters nationals. (of note, former national champions got dropped as well.) the latter race was just that much more violent on the way to the hill--and i did more work than i could handle. so, too, for you--if you are smart about your work you may achieve different results with the same physical ability.
there are ways to play stage 4, too.
at least be open to the possibilities.
But you are right that I at least know the courses now and should be (hopefully!) a smarter racer than I was last year. That's why I do think positioning going into the climbs can help me out a lot.
Either way I'm looking forward to the overall experience!! What a fun race, even if you lose.
you ARE a smarter racer. doesn't mean you might not make mistakes, but course knowledge + a year of racing makes a big difference.
i believe we all have the power to exceed our own expectations. i hope you know that i said all the stuff above simply because you have a chance in every race you enter. sure, it might be a slim chance, but it is a chance nonetheless. that is what excites me about racing: at no time am i ever the strongest guy, but i still have a shot at winning.
bend is awesome and the cascade courses are pure fun. well, i could do without folks taking the inside line on turn 3 of the crit and, similarly with folks not using their rear brake exiting turn 4.
18 flat would be >30mph; few amateurs are capable of that. 19 is more like 28.5 (maybe faster as i think the course is 9.2 not 9.0 miles).
regardless, it is a shorter effort.