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thechemist 07-11-13 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by gsteinb (Post 15838990)
you never catch cavendish at this stage of the race...

except for, errr, right there.

Epic! I am really enjoying watching Kittel show some force.

Grumpy McTrumpy 07-11-13 09:44 AM

I mean relative to past performances

JohnKScott 07-11-13 03:34 PM

Ha! I'm finally caught up with The Senior Games. I loved the look on Cavendish's face.

chasm54 07-11-13 03:35 PM

EBH out with a broken shoulder. Froome will run out of domestiques at this rate.

Fat Boy 07-11-13 05:47 PM

From Cyclingnews: "In an article for Le Monde earlier this week, for instance, former Festina trainer Antoine Vayer estimated that Froome produced an average power output of 446 watts on the final climb to Ax 3 Domaines on Saturday, but the yellow jersey dismissed the figures when they were put to him during his press conference after stage 12 to Tours.


"I don't think it's humanly possible to average 440 watts for a whole stage so that's out of the question. That's far, far from what I think is possible," said Froome."

Notice how they're saying 2 completely different things? Vayer talks about 446 watts for the final climb. Froome talks about 440 watts for a whole stage. Sounds more like a politician's answer than a racer if you ask me, similar to the stuff that many others have said in the past.

Who knows what's really going on. Creed wants to believe it's all hard work. It may very well be that's the truth. I would be nice if that were it. Sky makes themselves pretty stinkin' big targets, though, don't they?

botto 07-11-13 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chasm54 (Post 15838734)
More likely with Dave and Sean. But Sean doesn't like talking about doping, either...

They all suck.

mattm 07-11-13 08:56 PM

You know what's more boring than doping speculations?? Nothing. Nothing is more boring than internet guesswork.

We'll just have to wait and find out..

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Originally Posted by thechemist (Post 15839069)
Epic! I am really enjoying watching Kittel show some force.

+1!!!!

Racer Ex 07-11-13 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Boy (Post 15841085)
Creed wants to believe it's all hard work.

Yep. I'm certain Contador was sitting around drinking PBR and talking about podium girls. Same with guys like Rodriguez, Evans, and Valverde. Aside from no results to speak of, they are notoriously lazy. Evans once spent an entire season in Mazatlan drinking pina coladas and would drop in at races weighing 300 lbs.

Creed's either an ostrich or a very dim bulb.

All these guys work their asses off. There's no Jan showing up overweight and under performing.

All that aside the fastest guy in the race is Kittel. When was the last time Cav got a perfect lead out and a guy came around him?

In three years the kid will probably be an obnoxious ego. Right now it's hard not to love Kittel and his team. Farging head to head with Omega down the straight. I'm not a Cav hater...but that was a thing of beauty today. Too bad Griepel hit those cobblestones.

Hey Oleg...go eff yourself.

echappist 07-11-13 10:14 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Ivan_Drago.jpg and http://velonews.competitor.com/files...58-280x421.jpg


doppelgangers?

Racer Ex 07-11-13 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by echappist (Post 15841893)

You bet that's intentional.

rankin116 07-12-13 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Racer Ex (Post 15841845)

He is an entertaining personality on Twitter. Absolutely bat**** insane.

MDcatV 07-12-13 08:06 AM

looks (er sounds, i'm following on vn live report) like today is just like vuelta 2012 for valve. maybe he should consider riding gatorskins or something.

echappist 07-12-13 08:19 AM

i feel such PITI for him ;)

MDcatV 07-12-13 08:25 AM

i like valve. he's a very exciting racer. in the 2003 vuelta (i think) he was on kelme, his finishing kick at the top of climbs was fricken' dope!

i see this as a gray area that could be called "small" racing by belkin, but this is professional sports and the kind of stuff that has been going on forever in the TdF. people who think there is some kind of "honor" in the peloton should read the 100 years of the TdF book. i found the planned feedzone attacks, attacking when others had flats or crashes, or mechanicals, or some other misfortune to be fascinating.

echappist 07-12-13 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MDcatV (Post 15842881)
i like valve. he's a very exciting racer. in the 2003 vuelta (i think) he was on kelme, his finishing kick at the top of climbs was fricken' dope!

would you say it was less or more impressive than the Gewiss in the 1994 Fleche?
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i see this as a gray area that could be called "small" racing by belkin, but this is professional sports and the kind of stuff that has been going on forever in the TdF. people who think there is some kind of "honor" in the peloton should read the 100 years of the TdF book. i found the planned feedzone attacks, attacking when others had flats or crashes, or mechanicals, or some other misfortune to be fascinating.
Not entirely attacking when others have a misfortune, and it was not just Belkin. They were showing footage of huge wind turbines in the area, and it looks like some DS weren't paying attention; You snooze you loose.

Rolland got back on just fine.

MDcatV 07-12-13 08:36 AM

yes! yes! yes! yes! yes!

echappist 07-12-13 08:39 AM

and the evil mastermind Bjarnes attacks in the crosswind!

he may have been a doped up donkey and someone who tolerated doping, but this is pure racing shrewdness.

topflightpro 07-12-13 08:40 AM

I'm following the VeloNews feed at work. Sounds like quite the race today.

echappist 07-12-13 08:43 AM

think bike racing along the North Sea Coast of Belgium or de Nederlands

MDcatV 07-12-13 08:47 AM

cant wait to watch this. the mountains are great, the climbers doing what they do is incredible, but i cant relate to it. stages like this are what short fat guys who race bikes like me live for.

echappist 07-12-13 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MDcatV (Post 15842963)
cant wait to watch this. the mountains are great, the climbers doing what they do is incredible, but i cant relate to it. stages like this are what short fat guys who race bikes like me live for.

hmm, perhaps we should go to Skyline Drive some time. I'll let you relate to getting dropped by another fattie :p

thechemist 07-12-13 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by topflightpro (Post 15842939)
I'm following the VeloNews feed at work. Sounds like quite the race today.

I know right! I have been slammed at working and somewhat thankful for todays stage but not it is turning around to be a real winner

Grumpy McTrumpy 07-12-13 09:14 AM

This Tour has miraculously transmuted into a BIKE RACE

echappist 07-12-13 09:25 AM

note the wind direction indicator
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T...s800/tdf_2.jpg

wens 07-12-13 09:27 AM

Sky once again showing that they don't have bike racing nearly as figured out as w/kg and time trialing. That stage was awesome to watch.


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