Originally Posted by globecanvas
(Post 17032907)
I've said it before and I'll say it again. USAC should do what I say!
The USAC upgrade rules don't make much sense. Upgrade points in a road race for 3rd of 5 (40%), or 6th of 11 (45%). But nothing for 8th of 49 (84%) or 10th of 125 (92%). Why not just make it a percentage? N/5 points for winning a race of N starters, N/5-1 points for finishing 2nd, N/5-2 points for finishing 3rd, etc, until you get down to zero points. Who really cares though. It's silly, but there's no harm or foul. And they allow scrubs like me to work the system to achieve ultimate BF credibility in a year. |
Originally Posted by hack
(Post 17032931)
Ha ... was thinking about San Ardo 30-34 when there was just 1 other guy in the mix. Even then I was on the fence because it would be a looooong haul to get down there (4+ hours with an 8AM start time). Now I see there is a Cat 1 and fudgy in the mix, so I'm quickly falling onto the not going side of the fence. I can get my teeth kicked in for free at Coffee Republic. Might do Red Kite instead.
From what I've read, the course is flattish, but high probability of flats? |
Originally Posted by Ygduf
(Post 17033041)
yes, flattish. yes, lots of flats from thorns. The cat 1... only raced once this year. I hope he's out of shape. Also looks like a crit racer/sprinter, so come help me get rid of him!
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Originally Posted by hack
(Post 17033064)
Shoot...I'm more of a crit guy so all I'd do is sit on your wheel and give him a bigger draft. I have a few more hours to sign up and am still pondering. The other Cat 3 in the race looks to have some decent results. I've got to assume if only 4 sign up they'd combine fields and then "pick separately"?
If you really wanted to help me out all you do is get in front of the guy and let gaps open and make him chase up. Or when I make my 40-mile TT you sit in and disrupt the chase. That's all. I hope riding a road bike with 90 front/ disk back doesn't give my play away! |
Originally Posted by hack
(Post 17032931)
From what I've read, the course is flattish, but high probability of flats?
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Originally Posted by globecanvas
(Post 17032907)
I've said it before and I'll say it again. USAC should do what I say!
The USAC upgrade rules don't make much sense. Upgrade points in a road race for 3rd of 5 (40%), or 6th of 11 (45%). But nothing for 8th of 49 (84%) or 10th of 125 (92%). Why not just make it a percentage? N/5 points for winning a race of N starters, N/5-1 points for finishing 2nd, N/5-2 points for finishing 3rd, etc, until you get down to zero points. Also if the points system was broken, nobody would be upgrading!
Originally Posted by Ygduf
(Post 17033011)
and they allow scrubs like me to work the system to achieve ultimate BF credibility in a year.
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Originally Posted by mattm
(Post 17033478)
If it was a percentage, you'd get into all kinds of weirdness around rounding I bet.. and it would be "harder" to calculate points. I mean not hard, but people would get it wrong more often.
http://i.imgur.com/JTWWPIh.png |
Hmm, looks familiar.
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Originally Posted by globecanvas
(Post 17032907)
I've said it before and I'll say it again. USAC should do what I say!
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hack do Red Kite. I was thinking of also doing 3/4 for **** and giggles. I can draft off of you. :D
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It will be a BF meetup at red kite
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Red Kite sounds appealing. It will depend on how tomorrow's ride goes because tonight sucked.
Rear derailleur was all over the place after crashing at Dunnigan. I thought I had it all tuned up, but was a bit off and about 15 miles in it was skipping all over. Had to pull over to tweak and then lost the group. |
Originally Posted by hack
(Post 17034674)
Red Kite sounds appealing. It will depend on how tomorrow's ride goes because tonight sucked.
Rear derailleur was all over the place after crashing at Dunnigan. I thought I had it all tuned up, but was a bit off and about 15 miles in it was skipping all over. Had to pull over to tweak and then lost the group. |
Originally Posted by save10
(Post 17034131)
It will be a BF meetup at red kite
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Originally Posted by UmneyDurak
(Post 17034679)
Hmm, hanger bent?
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omg. next time we're together let me show you how to derailleur
Anyone doing Everest Challenge this year? |
Ha...made some quick parking lot adjustments and thought I had it fixed, but was waaaay off. My mistake was tightening and only running through a few of the gears in the cassette. Didn't check the climbing ones :(
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Hmm I might to Henleyville RR, if weather is good. There are words flat in the title and description. Sounds like my type of RR. :D
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I did Henleyville last year when I had crap fitness and feared hills (I still have crap fitness). I was fine and you'll do fine. 4 laps with one small roller into the feed zone and some wind. The finish is on a "hill" that is just a little punchy climb. We got a little bumpy coming into the finish and I ended up in the shoulder, didn't crash but lost any and all position. I'm pretty sure I'll do it again this year.
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
(Post 17034733)
omg. next time we're together let me show you how to derailleur
Anyone doing Everest Challenge this year? |
Cripes ... I hate people (in a good way) that have so much talent. Was talking with a guy post Dunnigan that started racing road this year. I looked at his USAC and he started as a 5 in like March, is currently a 3 and has half his points to upgrade to a 2 after ~20 total races :rolleyes:
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which?
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
(Post 17037225)
which?
The Official Website - USA Cycling |
^^ yea. Looks like he was at the race I won and lost.
I hate the new USAC Results page. It doesn't list a rider's category on the rider result page, and when you go into the race page you have to expand all the possible categories to ctrl-f someone. It's 100% worse. |
Originally Posted by Ygduf
(Post 17037468)
I hate the new USAC Results page. It doesn't list a rider's category on the rider result page, and when you go into the race page you have to expand all the possible categories to ctrl-f someone. It's 100% worse.
Also it breaks my Race Results app! |
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