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    Pre-Off Season training?

    Final race was last weekend. Base doesn't start until early November. Should I continue training, ease off the gas, start early base, or other from now until then?
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    tldr.

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    Between now and November, just enjoy life.

    Go on some rides without looking at the garmin/data, read books, spend time with the fam, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattm View Post
    Between now and November, just enjoy life.

    Go on some rides without looking at the garmin/data, read books, spend time with the fam, etc.
    Yep. Racing season, at least on me, is exhausting not only physically but mentally also. I use the time to just get back to riding for fun, do social rides, do other stuff I didn't have time for. Recharge the batteries for winter training, and next racing season.
    I see hills.... Bring them on!!!
    Stay calm and bring a towel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    tldr.
    we finally agree on something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
    we finally agree on something.
    And he even edited it!
    Attack in the feeling because it says I'll win absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandro View Post
    And he even edited it!
    still 41.

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    beer, lots of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
    still 41.
    (in case you weren't being sarcastic)

    Nah, I'd say it's pretty specific to racing he's just over thinking it.

    Offseason is just that. Off. Just ride around. Enjoy bikes. Go on some longer rides. Indulge in a hammer ride on occasion. Drink lots of beer. Eat lots of holiday food. Throw around the term "eff it! it's the offseason!" Then devour that pastry. Don't talk about #raceweight until at least January. /shrug
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    in 41 it's always the off season.

    I have a low tolerance for training questions because I think the 99%-important part of training is not what, but doing it consistently.

    Nobody is qualified to tell OP what to do between now and November except OP.

    Just go ride and do whatever you enjoy. My same advice for racing season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
    in 41 it's always the off season.
    ok

    I have a low tolerance for training questions because I think the 99%-important part of training is not what, but doing it consistently.
    Awesome

    Nobody is qualified to tell OP what to do between now and November except OP.
    incorrect

    Just go ride and do whatever you enjoy. My same advice for racing season.
    that's fine. Mediocre results will likely follow though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
    that's fine. Mediocre results will likely follow though.
    If you don't like training, you're probably not going to beat the guys who do, anyway.

    n = 1, but I do intervals 1x/year and I do OK .

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    It's like you were trying to make my point for me. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
    It's like you were trying to make my point for me. Thanks.
    We're talking past each other.

    If OP is counting on us to tell him what to do for racing success next year, he's pretty screwed.

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    And I'm saying beyond your understanding of the sport and training there's a wealth of knowledge in these forums. Just because you don't know your ass from you elbow, or simply don't care, doesn't mean that maps over to everyone.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
    We're talking past each other.
    No. I'm talking down to you. You're snarky and imagine you have some knowledge into the sport because you beat some 4s in a RR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
    If OP is counting on us to tell him what to do for racing success next year, he's pretty screwed.
    Actually, if you would have read my original post, you would have read that I am not asking what to do for racing success next year. I simply said I was going to research base training online more, read a few books, AND ask fellow BF racers what their opinions were on the matter. But if you want to simply lump me as a 41 and think I am here asking for a magical Cat 1 training program, then kudos to you. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oespinoza83 View Post
    Actually, if you would have read my original post, you would have read that I am not asking what to do for racing success next year. I simply said I was going to research base training online more, read a few books, AND ask fellow BF racers what their opinions were on the matter. But if you want to simply lump me as a 41 and think I am here asking for a magical Cat 1 training program, then kudos to you. Thanks.
    Alright, I've come across poorly if you think I'm discouraging you from doing anything at all. My fault.

    People agree that it's a valid question. I concede; I was wrong.
    I read it as hand-wring-y and overly anxious. My fault.

    My answer is still the same. Do whatever it is that you want to do, so that you'll stick with it. Consistency is a quality of training, and due to personal experience (mine) and knowing lots of people, I think it's actually the most important part of training. What you actually do matters less than doing something. Just like it doesn't matter what your meals consist of if you're eating healthy and getting the nutrition you need.

    Base is still training. Minute to minute, it's not as taxing, but you need to be prepared mentally to go out and do a lot of z2 (which is not noodling) volume. Therefore, I recommend doing whatever it is that you enjoy, which will have you in the mood to spend even more time on the bike. For me, I reduce volume, but change nothing else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
    What you actually do matters less than doing something. Just like it doesn't matter what your meals consist of if you're eating healthy and getting the nutrition you need.
    this makes no sense, fudgy.

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    this thread is awesome.

    I can't wait for winter to reaaaaally set in this year
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    I get to sass for beating up on some cat 4s. GSB gets to sass for being old. And "consistency" wasn't on Mikey's SAT score that got him into Hopkins.

    OP wins, I think.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Creakyknees View Post
    this thread is awesome.

    I can't wait for winter to reaaaaally set in this year
    +1 **** is just getting started!!
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    OP, what I do when I call it quits is JRA. Base training is still training. Just Ride Around. Keep the time down to 5-10 hours/week. Resist the temptation to use what's left of your form to beat up on recreational riders on long rides. Rest is paramount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
    I get to sass for beating up on some cat 4s. GSB gets to sass for being old. And "consistency" wasn't on Mikey's SAT score that got him into Hopkins.

    OP wins, I think.

    i wasn't debating that consistency is important, but it's contradictory to say "it doesn't matter what you eat as long as you're getting the nutrition you need" or "it doesn't matter what you do as long as you're consistent." and my sat scores were terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattm View Post
    +1 **** is just getting started!!
    It ain't winter till I see the while fluffy stuff on the ground... Until then, ride your bike
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    this time of the year is "transition" for me. i try to do some running or other cross training for overall health benefits of varying my routine. i think this time of the year is good for actually trying to lose some weight (if needed), clamping down on the diet more because you dont need food as much for training/recovery, getting some things done that you've neglected because of racing schedules (like work around your house or other projects) and doing JRA because it's a nice time of the year to do so (at least where I live).

    i dont understand the "its the offseason so now i can eat bad and drink more beer" position. that's the jan ulrich approach.

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