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    this thread:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
    this thread:
    Sinkhole????
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    oh sorry, lots of wallowing!

    I know it is well-intentioned, but after 3 hours of meetings to read the 20-odd replies of people listing reasons as to why they suck, it's rough. Reads like a list of excuses, even though we are just listing things we want to improve upon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
    oh sorry, lots of wallowing!

    I know it is well-intentioned, but after 3 hours of meetings to read the 20-odd replies of people listing reasons as to why they suck, it's rough. Reads like a list of excuses, even though we are just listing things we want to improve upon.
    The follow-up will be what to do with them.
    I might start to respond to some tomorrow. Sometimes if you post what you think is a limitation, put it writing and read it over again you will realize it is an excuse, not a limitation...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
    oh sorry, lots of wallowing!

    I know it is well-intentioned, but after 3 hours of meetings to read the 20-odd replies of people listing reasons as to why they suck, it's rough. Reads like a list of excuses, even though we are just listing things we want to improve upon.
    Haha I was kinda of thinking the same thing. We probably just need to redo our goals in the other thread focusing on these issues.
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    Not being ready; I've skipped so many races because I felt that I wasn't 'ready'. I just missed a TT this last week because I wasn't ready (I would have got crushed but showing up and getting the experience helps). Since I've never really peaked due to injuries, I'm never 'there', but I need to get over that whole attitude that I have to in top form to race.

    Descending. Got a flat going 46 mph on GMR. Went down and over a berm at 29 mph. I don't know if it is a limiting factor since I've only had one race with a descent (I did get 53 mph on that) but I descend like an old man while training.

    Cars. Got hit twice (nothing major) the first year and am really selective about where I ride. Its better now since I moved to a cycling town but before most the streets were pothole infested straightaways with no shoulder and cars going 60+. I'm not sure if this is a limiter though or just being smart.
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    Knowing I can hang with the A group but not going for fear of being dropped. Cornering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
    oh sorry, lots of wallowing!

    I know it is well-intentioned, but after 3 hours of meetings to read the 20-odd replies of people listing reasons as to why they suck, it's rough. Reads like a list of excuses, even though we are just listing things we want to improve upon.
    Yeah, I want my body to stop falling apart.

    You work at Stanford. Where's my ****ing time machine?

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    you work at stanford?? can you help me get into their chem eng program for PhD?

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    you work at stanford?? can you help me get into their chem eng program for PhD?
    Get in line. You don't get **** until I get my time machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post
    Get in line. You don't get **** until I get my time machine.
    You seem like a persuasive guy. I'm sure you could talk to a Doc and get a little rejuvenation. Maybe don't compete for a year and get healthy?

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    This applies to when I was younger and actually attempting to race after upgrading to 2:

    Lack of training plan other than "hard" days and "easy" days.
    Unfocused training. Should have done structured intervals etc...
    A bit heavy. Should have dropped 5 - 10 pounds.
    Lack of confidence attacking or getting in breaks. No problem getting in the mix and placing in bunch sprints, but not good for much if 10 guys are up the road.

    When I started riding and racing again at 45, I corrected many of those and had a few results to show for it.
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    whiskey and nutella.

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    I want funding too, and a stipend. Forget TA and RA, those are for noobs. Oh and get that physics professor, the one with the nobel prize, to recommend me for the NSF fellowship. Chop chop.

    and bring me a 6 pack while you're at it. thanks dear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
    You seem like a persuasive guy. I'm sure you could talk to a Doc and get a little rejuvenation. Maybe don't compete for a year and get healthy?
    You seem to have this idea that steroids make people healthy, they don't. Being strong and feeling good is not the same thing as health. Many chemicals can make you feel better and younger but they essentially always have a trade off with longevity. For someone who already has extraordinary fitness and a high quality of life for his age, exchanging any amount of longevity for a bit more fitness would be irresponsible.

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    Whew, close call there. I bet Ex was on his way to his doctor to follow my 20 words of internet-given-with-no-knowledge-of-actual-health-issues drug-seeking advice.

    But actually I was referring to resveratrol. Maybe.

    And to Ex, in my post I was very clear to say the list reads like a list of excuses, not that it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
    . Reads like a list of excuses, even though we are just listing things we want to improve upon.
    nope, I'm just making excuses
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    It's probably what I do in the time off the bike that limits me most, LOL. I suck at recovery.
    My weekday rides are followed by getting ready for work. I work with special needs kids so I am on my feet all day. I don't eat well at work because I am too busy and after work I have a round of family stuff to do.
    Usually after a hard weekend group ride I either sit at the coffee shop with friends and re-hydrate with a large black coffee or I head straight to one of my kid's games.
    I have great intentions of "recovery shakes", stretching and taking naps but it never happens.
    One thing I have done recently is start doing Yoga, at least it makes me slow down a bit and stretch ...one hour per week!
    So I guess I am saying that I need to get more lazy to become more successful!

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    I was joking. Unless you actually have access to a time machine. In which case fork it over.

    I'd use it less to turn back the clock than to sit quietly in a dark room on those occasions where I bounced off of things at a high rate of speed. For the most part the stuff that's going bad is related to

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    Quote Originally Posted by globecanvas View Post
    Giving up too soon.
    Add me to the list, too.
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    Confidence in tight and aggressive packs. I can get mentally "shut out" before being physically "shut out". It's the reason I don't do well at cross or more aggressive crits. As soon as any of those open up/ become less aggressive I can turn on my usual racing mentality and just push all out. But I am limited as long as I feel nervous about the people around me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enthalpic View Post
    You seem to have this idea that steroids make people healthy, they don't. Being strong and feeling good is not the same thing as health. Many chemicals can make you feel better and younger but they essentially always have a trade off with longevity. For someone who already has extraordinary fitness and a high quality of life for his age, exchanging any amount of longevity for a bit more fitness would be irresponsible.
    not that there aren't myriad guys who are irresponsible.

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    Off the top of my head:

    1)Descents: Not necessarily fearing them which I do but just as much is also the fact that I can be slow on non-technical descents as well. Some of it is that I am not big but I do get pretty aero.

    2)Family- Not so much in the daily workouts as I can commute to get miles but in the out of state races.

    3) When to turn "it" on. I know I have it as I can keep up in crits fine but in road races I give up before I need to. This has been one great lesson I have learned looking back over my first year and I plan to hammer harder to stay on the front next year during RR.

    4) Injury- This may or may not be a factor. time will tell as I am not even back on the bike yet from the broken hip. I don't think it will be an issue but knowing that I can go down and be out for a few months hits home closer than it should
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    Starting grad school in the spring while continuing work, so that will be a challenge to figure out a good training and riding schedule.

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    1. Peanut butter chocolate icecream.
    2. All you can eat sushi
    3. Patience

    1 & 2 probably require me to put down 10% more power on climbs, its a fair trade off.

    3 is that I've only been on the bike for less than 2 years, and its sometimes hard to have patience and let the fitness come. Joining "open" races is a good reality check and I need to focus on the progress.

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