I dislike Joe Friel and Chris Carmichael
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he's strong, he still has like a 4.5 w/kg ftp, he's just one of those low speed ot hgih watt people and doesn't ride super smart. Remember you're super slow, evena kitten could whoop you
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I was looking at those rollers you were using, might get a set to train on in the house to mix things up. How much did you pay(did you pay? lol)
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about 300. I like them. Still need to contact competitive cyclist for my warranty. Not too happy the cap broke, but it seems like an isolated incident.
i like how the lower speedd (20 mph) is still easily in my z2, but once im over 30 mph im at the 350+ range. I do not like how the wattage chart is just wrong. It said soomething like 400 watts for 31 mph. I can not do z5 work without sticking a towel under the rear roller
i like how the lower speedd (20 mph) is still easily in my z2, but once im over 30 mph im at the 350+ range. I do not like how the wattage chart is just wrong. It said soomething like 400 watts for 31 mph. I can not do z5 work without sticking a towel under the rear roller
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about 300. I like them. Still need to contact competitive cyclist for my warranty. Not too happy the cap broke, but it seems like an isolated incident.
i like how the lower speedd (20 mph) is still easily in my z2, but once im over 30 mph im at the 350+ range. I do not like how the wattage chart is just wrong. It said soomething like 400 watts for 31 mph. I can not do z5 work without sticking a towel under the rear roller
i like how the lower speedd (20 mph) is still easily in my z2, but once im over 30 mph im at the 350+ range. I do not like how the wattage chart is just wrong. It said soomething like 400 watts for 31 mph. I can not do z5 work without sticking a towel under the rear roller
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I had several accounts from juniors who rode on those teams (not involved in the suit). Knock on door. "You need this vitamin injection". Ride fast after. B12 magic!
You really need to sit around a table and hear someone ask "You don't think I was doped, do you?" for the real implication of this to hit home.
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I'm pretty sure his current coaching program doesn't involve doping, so the past history doesn't effect me. Also, I'd be willing to bet that what actually went on was a bit more nuanced than the plaintiff's allegations. I would like to think that if you doped minors unknowingly that there would be criminal charges involved.
My intent here was not to defend Carmichael's moral character or past history. Just sayin, I've found him helpful as a coach, and Ive enjoyed riding with him.
My intent here was not to defend Carmichael's moral character or past history. Just sayin, I've found him helpful as a coach, and Ive enjoyed riding with him.
I know a couple who used to be trained by Carmichael. They were even mentioned in one of his books. They said it was reasonable coaching, but nothing special. If you read Hamilton's book, it makes C.C. out to be a clown. I definitely think he was billed as 'Lance's Coach' as a convenient way to cover up the use of Ferrari. Honestly, if you have the option of Ferrari or C.C. as a coach (especially 15 years ago), it's not even a consideration which you're going to go with.
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I really have no knowledge of Carmichael personally, so my feelings are fairly far removed. It seems like to jump start his coaching career he doped kids who then went and kicked some ass (of course). It doesn't make sense for him to dope anyone now. He's established and the feelings toward PED's have completely changed.
I know a couple who used to be trained by Carmichael. They were even mentioned in one of his books. They said it was reasonable coaching, but nothing special. If you read Hamilton's book, it makes C.C. out to be a clown. I definitely think he was billed as 'Lance's Coach' as a convenient way to cover up the use of Ferrari. Honestly, if you have the option of Ferrari or C.C. as a coach (especially 15 years ago), it's not even a consideration which you're going to go with.
I know a couple who used to be trained by Carmichael. They were even mentioned in one of his books. They said it was reasonable coaching, but nothing special. If you read Hamilton's book, it makes C.C. out to be a clown. I definitely think he was billed as 'Lance's Coach' as a convenient way to cover up the use of Ferrari. Honestly, if you have the option of Ferrari or C.C. as a coach (especially 15 years ago), it's not even a consideration which you're going to go with.
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I missed the shift from what one of us would do to what would some pro would do. I would have opted for the not wanting to win a pro bike race in 1998 cause taking **** just ain't what I've wanted to do with my time.
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Tbf, as amoral as Dr. Ferrari is (i don't think he's immoral), he's at least technically competent. As someone else put it, Ferrari is just the front for Lance, and he got rewarded handsomely for the act. There's a five letter word that start with the letter "B" that really sums up the situation, though the said word is considered by some to be offensive in the LBGT community.
that said, i wouldn't want to go to either. You can't be too sure what Ferrari puts in the OJ.
that said, i wouldn't want to go to either. You can't be too sure what Ferrari puts in the OJ.
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Tbf, as amoral as Dr. Ferrari is (i don't think he's immoral), he's at least technically competent. As someone else put it, Ferrari is just the front for Lance, and he got rewarded handsomely for the act. There's a five letter word that start with the letter "B" that really sums up the situation, though the said word is considered by some to be offensive in the LBGT community.
that said, i wouldn't want to go to either. You can't be too sure what Ferrari puts in the OJ.
that said, i wouldn't want to go to either. You can't be too sure what Ferrari puts in the OJ.
Then once you are in and see the results, getting out is much more difficult...
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Since it's mainly concerned the doping of juniors and juniors aren't pros, I'm pretty sure we're ok. But feel free to get your blue star on take control.
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Anyway, what does CC being a doper / child analrapist have to do with proper training strategy for a newbie racer?
OP - go read the sticky threads at the top of this forum. Do intervals, lots of them. Suffer. Go fast. It's not really so complicated.
OP - go read the sticky threads at the top of this forum. Do intervals, lots of them. Suffer. Go fast. It's not really so complicated.
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