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    Congrats Mattm and Ex.
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    Erly Bird crit #2 - 3rd place and 7th place. Flat, 2.2 km rectangular course.

    Wife had the car so I rode there (about an hour away).
    Race 1, all ages. Start/finish was into the wind. Sat in the peloton a lot today, but still ended up at 92% including cool down lap. There were 2 crashes, yikes! No one hurt though. 3 laps to go, I sat on at second wheel on the back stretch, and when the lead guy was good and tired I attacked into the corner. Got a pretty good gap and held it for a couple minutes waiting for someone to come help but it didn't happen so I eased back in. Planned to do the same thing on the final lap. Went well, attacked hard into the same turn. Didn't look back though, and someone got my wheel and had a great leadout! Another guy barely edged me out as well and I took third. I was pretty close to my 1 minute max there, so no regrets. Except maybe I could have eased up just enough to save a sprint for the final 200, but not so much to encourage people to jump early.

    Clinic was cornering. Surprised at how many people don't know how. Got a flat and barely changed it in time for the next race.

    Race 2, 30+
    Feeling a bit fatigued. First few laps were fast, with multiple groups, gaps, and a generally strung out field. I started in the back, and had to work pretty hard to not get dropped with the back groups. Last lap I decided to find what looked like a good rider to draft through 2nd to last turn - he was moving up and looked strong. Unfortunately he desided to brake through the turn as the real race accelerated, and I was stuck. Finally came around with no way to catch the leaders. Edged out 2 guys right before the line for 7th.

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    Oh, I also learned the huge effect wind can have. HAD to be in the inside for turn one, or be stuck on the windward side on the next straightaway. Due to the headwind before turn one, people were NOT giving up their draft, so basically had to plan 1/2 of each lap around the wind. Totally worth it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronmcd View Post
    Erly Bird crit #2 - 3rd place and 7th place. Flat, 2.2 km rectangular course.

    Wife had the car so I rode there (about an hour away).
    Race 1, all ages. Start/finish was into the wind. Sat in the peloton a lot today, but still ended up at 92% including cool down lap. There were 2 crashes, yikes! No one hurt though. 3 laps to go, I sat on at second wheel on the back stretch, and when the lead guy was good and tired I attacked into the corner. Got a pretty good gap and held it for a couple minutes waiting for someone to come help but it didn't happen so I eased back in. Planned to do the same thing on the final lap. Went well, attacked hard into the same turn. Didn't look back though, and someone got my wheel and had a great leadout! Another guy barely edged me out as well and I took third. I was pretty close to my 1 minute max there, so no regrets. Except maybe I could have eased up just enough to save a sprint for the final 200, but not so much to encourage people to jump early.

    Clinic was cornering. Surprised at how many people don't know how. Got a flat and barely changed it in time for the next race.

    Race 2, 30+
    Feeling a bit fatigued. First few laps were fast, with multiple groups, gaps, and a generally strung out field. I started in the back, and had to work pretty hard to not get dropped with the back groups. Last lap I decided to find what looked like a good rider to draft through 2nd to last turn - he was moving up and looked strong. Unfortunately he desided to brake through the turn as the real race accelerated, and I was stuck. Finally came around with no way to catch the leaders. Edged out 2 guys right before the line for 7th.
    Good stuff! You're looking primed for some early races. Are you planning to come up the Sacramento area for any of the early crits? Cal Aggie, Folsom Winter, etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronmcd View Post
    Went well, attacked hard into the same turn. Didn't look back though, and someone got my wheel and had a great leadout! Another guy barely edged me out as well and I took third.
    Next time show your cards like you did today, then ease up and force them around you. Grab their wheel, then launch your sprint.
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    I'm so excited that I get to post here! Did my first ever crit today. It went well. I raced Cat 4 women. I got 2nd place behind the same chick that beat me in my last 2 races! It was fun though, we broke away after 3 laps and were quickly way out in front. I tried to drop her but she stuck with me. I won the Primes but then she out sprinted me, we were lapping a rider on the last turn and she got a better line. I think she could have out sprinted me anyways. I have a feeling I'll be racing her all.season.long! Gotta get faster!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hack View Post
    Good stuff! You're looking primed for some early races. Are you planning to come up the Sacramento area for any of the early crits? Cal Aggie, Folsom Winter, etc?
    Likely will. Plan on racing every day there is a race that I can get to.

    Quote Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
    Next time show your cards like you did today, then ease up and force them around you. Grab their wheel, then launch your sprint.
    That's it right there. Should have though of this! Thanks for the tip.

    Quote Originally Posted by rideaz View Post
    I'm so excited that I get to post here! Did my first ever crit today. It went well. I raced Cat 4 women. I got 2nd place behind the same chick that beat me in my last 2 races! It was fun though, we broke away after 3 laps and were quickly way out in front. I tried to drop her but she stuck with me. I won the Primes but then she out sprinted me, we were lapping a rider on the last turn and she got a better line. I think she could have out sprinted me anyways. I have a feeling I'll be racing her all.season.long! Gotta get faster!
    Congrats on your first crit, and getting 2nd ain't bad! I have yet to get 2nd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideaz View Post
    I'm so excited that I get to post here! Did my first ever crit today. It went well. I raced Cat 4 women. I got 2nd place behind the same chick that beat me in my last 2 races! It was fun though, we broke away after 3 laps and were quickly way out in front. I tried to drop her but she stuck with me. I won the Primes but then she out sprinted me, we were lapping a rider on the last turn and she got a better line. I think she could have out sprinted me anyways. I have a feeling I'll be racing her all.season.long! Gotta get faster!
    Awesome! Helluva result for your first crit.
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    Nice work Aaron as well! You're learning quickly.

    But why so many flats?? What tires are you running?
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    Early Bird 1/2's, same course as Aaron but later in the day. Didn't win this time..

    Had a team mate in the race, he was in the break that started early but unfortunately he dropped out with two laps to go.. damn!

    Also made a new friend - my breakmate from last week, I was sucking his (and everyone's) wheel hard every time he'd try to bridge up the break that had my team mate in it. He'd slow, I'd not pull through. He yelled, etc.

    Eventually he tried to brake-check me! And then had the balls to yell about how I was stupid for riding for my team mate in an Early Bird race, when he's trying to crash guys out lol. That's racing! Love it.
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    Went to the Crit Clinic in San Diego today, I learned quite a bit, mostly while doing the drills, etc.

    We had a small race at the end, tried getting in a few breaks but they all died out. Stayed in the middle of the pack towards the end and was going to jump on the final lap, but that seemed to be 80% of the fields plan as well. I just grabbed a wheel and stayed in the middle. Final turn a few guys on the outside blew by us like we were standing still. Even if the guys in front of me kept up I doubt it would have mattered.

    Honestly I'm glad I just stayed with the pack, and was strong enough to control my positioning during the race. Outside of improving my burst, I need to work on cornering.

    Next crit is in 5 weeks (Ontario); may do a TT in a few weeks (Oak Hills).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattm View Post
    Early Bird 1/2's, same course as Aaron but later in the day. Didn't win this time..

    Hey, who did win that race, btw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideaz View Post
    I'm so excited that I get to post here! Did my first ever crit today. It went well. I raced Cat 4 women. I got 2nd place behind the same chick that beat me in my last 2 races! It was fun though, we broke away after 3 laps and were quickly way out in front. I tried to drop her but she stuck with me. I won the Primes but then she out sprinted me, we were lapping a rider on the last turn and she got a better line. I think she could have out sprinted me anyways. I have a feeling I'll be racing her all.season.long! Gotta get faster!
    Great work! I bet you have everyone's attention now, including the 3's

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousferret View Post
    Went to the Crit Clinic in San Diego today, I learned quite a bit, mostly while doing the drills, etc.

    We had a small race at the end, tried getting in a few breaks but they all died out. Stayed in the middle of the pack towards the end and was going to jump on the final lap, but that seemed to be 80% of the fields plan as well. I just grabbed a wheel and stayed in the middle. Final turn a few guys on the outside blew by us like we were standing still. Even if the guys in front of me kept up I doubt it would have mattered.

    Honestly I'm glad I just stayed with the pack, and was strong enough to control my positioning during the race. Outside of improving my burst, I need to work on cornering.

    Next crit is in 5 weeks (Ontario); may do a TT in a few weeks (Oak Hills).
    I've learned the hard way and have been told over and over again by more seasoned teammates that almost nothing sticks in Cat 5 or 4 races, so don't chase. There will always be exceptions, but for the most part, that's been the rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronmcd View Post
    Likely will. Plan on racing every day there is a race that I can get to.


    That's it right there. Should have though of this! Thanks for the tip.


    Congrats on your first crit, and getting 2nd ain't bad! I have yet to get 2nd.
    Awesome, you'll do great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattm View Post
    Nice work Aaron as well! You're learning quickly.

    But why so many flats?? What tires are you running?
    Idk, the flats are pissing me off. It was a little shard of metal again this week (same as last week). Running Continental GP 4000s. 2200 miles so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
    Hey, who did win that race, btw?
    One of your guys, Lee I think. Or maybe Giuseppe (they were both in the break, stayed away).
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    Quote Originally Posted by hack View Post
    Awesome, you'll do great!
    That's the plan haha! You're 4, right? I'm debating whether to upgrade after the next Early Bird to avoid the carnage, or stay in 5 until the Early birds end. Are upgrades pretty much instantaneous, or do you have to wait?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattm View Post
    Awesome! Hella result for your first crit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronmcd View Post
    That's the plan haha! You're 4, right? I'm debating whether to upgrade after the next Early Bird to avoid the carnage, or stay in 5 until the Early birds end. Are upgrades pretty much instantaneous, or do you have to wait?
    I am a 4. It took about a couple of days for them to approve my upgrade request. Since it's still early bird, I'd say upgrade so you at least experience the next cat in non-official race conditions. Better than psyching yourself out for your first Cat 4 race. Things will be a bit more controlled, but there is still opportunity for disaster

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousferret View Post
    Went to the Crit Clinic in San Diego today, I learned quite a bit, mostly while doing the drills, etc.

    We had a small race at the end, tried getting in a few breaks but they all died out. Stayed in the middle of the pack towards the end and was going to jump on the final lap, but that seemed to be 80% of the fields plan as well. I just grabbed a wheel and stayed in the middle. Final turn a few guys on the outside blew by us like we were standing still. Even if the guys in front of me kept up I doubt it would have mattered.

    Honestly I'm glad I just stayed with the pack, and was strong enough to control my positioning during the race. Outside of improving my burst, I need to work on cornering.

    Next crit is in 5 weeks (Ontario); may do a TT in a few weeks (Oak Hills).
    bro you didn't even say hi? wadahell! I was in the very last group and attacked on the 2nd lap that failboated when you guys caught me lol.

    Some guy claimed he could spin up to 300 cadence, I hope that wasn't you brah.
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    It looks like things are starting to pick up. Awesome job everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ovoleg View Post
    bro you didn't even say hi? wadahell! I was in the very last group and attacked on the 2nd lap that failboated when you guys caught me lol.

    Some guy claimed he could spin up to 300 cadence, I hope that wasn't you brah.
    Nope that wasn't me, but I'd like to meet him!

    Okay, I know who you are now. I thought that was you and was going to say hi but was in the other group. I was the guy with the mechanical issue (my fork was wobbling) in a black and red jersey; probably the only guy without a club kit.

    I took some crappy cell phone pics of your (last group?) finish, but they're not too great, I can send them to you if want them

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronmcd View Post
    That's the plan haha! You're 4, right? I'm debating whether to upgrade after the next Early Bird to avoid the carnage, or stay in 5 until the Early birds end. Are upgrades pretty much instantaneous, or do you have to wait?
    Upgrade asap.
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