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Old 03-17-05, 03:32 PM   #1
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Race Wheels

I'm sure this subject has been beat to death but....

I'm looking for a good set of race wheels, strong, stiff, light and durable. Something I can use for crits,TT and road races on variable terrain (good vs bad tarmac). My budget is $1,000. I'd like something with a deeper dish, 30-40mm, but I'm open.

Any thoughts on HED jet 40's or 60's
Ksyrium SLs
others??

Thanks!
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Old 03-17-05, 03:52 PM   #2
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While Ksyrium's are durable, they aren't aero. I have two pairs so I know. I can't personally speak for HEDs but Zipp 404 is a good choice. They are over that price but you might find a deal or a used set.
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Old 03-17-05, 04:03 PM   #3
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I guess I should specify that I would like to go with clincher rims.
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I guess I should specify that I would like to go with clincher rims.
aww c'mon man. If your gonna get wet why not jump all the way in? tubies are lighter, roll better, and in a race you're not gonna be able to stop to change a flat anyway.
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if they are race only wheels, i would go with tubular as well. but try the american classic 420's. 1500 g, 30-40 mm deep rim, and they are supposedly pretty stiff.
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I like the Neuvation M28 wheels, If I remember right they are 27mm deep. they are hard to beat for the money.
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Old 03-17-05, 05:39 PM   #7
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They are no where near 1000 though... So while at that price point they may be hard to beat, most of the wheels he will be looking at in the 1000 dollar range will be better.

Neuvation M28 Aeros are the same thing as Performance Titans. Same thing... I was at Performance today and the Titans were like $70 for the front and $80 for the rear. THAT IS DAMN HARD TO BEAT. But I still didn't get them cause I'm that poor.
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I love my Velomax Orion's 1450g radially laced with straight pull spokes. Spokes are intresting with threads on both the hub and rim sides. Thread locker holds them in the hub. I have 2000 mi on them now and they're great. Did a real ROUGH century, more potholes thatn pavement in Willows CA last week. They held up great.
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Hi,

A whole local team, and I, use Bontrager X Lites (mostly tubular) for racing. These wheels are very light: accelerates incredibly. And also are decently aero. Could be a nice option especially if you ride hilly or mountain zones. Bye,

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HED Alps?
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aww c'mon man. If your gonna get wet why not jump all the way in? tubies are lighter, roll better, and in a race you're not gonna be able to stop to change a flat anyway.

Please....

You'd be surprised how many pros are not riding tubies anymore...

To answer the question, if you want a great pair of light under $1,000 clincher wheels the Mavic SL's are IMO the best.
But I do support Zipp as they are an Indiana company...down the street from turn one of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway in the Capital of Speed....
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American classic 420s are great allaround race wheels for the money. You can get them with ti skewers for about 700-800. Bladed spokes are available but add about 75 grams to them. I went through a good month of wheel research and these seemed to be the best wheels for the money. I hear Ksyriums are nice, but I personally avoid buying French products and the Mavic customer service was nonexistent. Am classic wheels have normal DT spokes which makes them durable and real easy to repair too.
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no one likes the HED Alps?

1540 grams for the set, 18/24 spoke count, made in Spain, 55mm carbon rim with aluminum cap, knock about a minute off your 40K time, and they cost around $950

Or the all Carbon 50mm Stingers, @ 1390 grams and less than $900 for the set...


The new HED carbon 3 spokes can be bought for a little over a $1300 for the set, the most aerodynamic wheels made (other than a full disk) 1500 grams

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before you go out an buy some aero/non-standard wheels you should check that they are actually legal for mass start races.

http://www.uci.ch/english/about/wheels.htm
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How many and who would that be?

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I've just bought a pair of bontrager carbon xlite aero, tublar. They roll nice and seem very fast, although i've done about 3500km training since January so i'ts probably me thats fast!!! I'm not so sure about the hubs though, raced last week in the rain and they don't seem to be sealed enough. Water/dirt must have got inside and they are now abit stiff. I've sent an email complaining to bontrager but am still awaiting a reply!
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Nothing trick, if one set of hoops is intended for all racing purposes........

Campy hubs, Mavic rims, DT spokes.....is a good starting point. Support your local wheelbuilder or build your own?
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