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Old 03-18-05, 12:08 AM   #1
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Elite 4's or Master 4's 30+ Age Racing?

I have a question regarding age racing. This year I am turning 30 and Sea Otter RR and circuit race has a 30+ age cat 4 race and an elite 4's race. I am a cat 4 racer but my birthday isn't until May when I actually turn 30. Sea Otter race is April. I think I might have a little better chance in the 30+ cat then the regular 4's. Can I race the 30+ race even though I am 29 on race day?
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Old 03-18-05, 04:17 AM   #2
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The rule is you determine age by how old you are on 12/31 of the current year.
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do not assume that moving up in age groups makes the competition easier.


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Old 03-18-05, 08:09 AM   #4
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do not assume that moving up in age groups makes the competition easier.

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Yea thats the truth! I was just hoping that the field wouldn't be quite as full as the Elites 4 will be and I might have a little chance of staying on with the pack.

So as of 12/31/05 I will be 30 so I will race the 30+ masters cat, thats sweet!!!
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If I read your post correctly, you're trying to pick the race that won't drop you?
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dude.. masters 30+ are some fast seasoned veterans. good luck.
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dude.. masters 30+ are some fast seasoned veterans. good luck.

He isn't looking at doing a Masters 30+ Open race, he's looking at the Masters 30+ Cat4s. There is a huge difference.
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Up here in Canada (license is governed by UCI), you have to commit the season to either Master or elite. No flip flopping. Currently I am 33 but turn 34 in October so that is what my age is on the license
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Some of the masters races are faster than the younger races... have fun!
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I think it all depends on your goals. Personally, I'd race with the regular CAT4's... you're still young :-)

Here in CO, where a majority of our races are sanctioned by the ACA, we have SM4 (CAT4), SM4 35+, and 35+ (there are many others, but these pertain to the thread). SM4 out here is VERY competitive - which i think is due to a high concentration of good riders in a small area. In fact, in many races the avg speed in SM4 is higher than that of SM3 (but it's all relative and they actually race smarter in SM3).

There are a lot of guys that hit SM4 35+ once they turn 35... alot of folks refer to that category as the "sand bagger" category. Though I have never raced in that category (I'm 31), I can attest to the fact that the speeds and distances are less than SM4. On the other hand, 35+ (Considered a Masters category) is downright NASTY. You have old pros and guys that just love kickin' tail who don't want to race SM3 (CAT3). Take that into consideration.

So... long story, short... racing with the older guys might actually be harder than regular CAT4 guys.
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Apologies in advance, Couldn't resist.

RoadWarrior is correct, your racing age is 30? The consensus here that the old dudes can go just as fast as the kids has also been my experience. On a nasty course the distinction is that the old dudes are a little more cautious, a higher percentage understanding their mortality (and having to go to work on Monday). Probably wouldn't be as much a factor in a RR. Although I would argue that, contrary to popular opinion, I think Crits are safer. Hmm, I smell a Thread.

All that said I would race both if possible.
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Although I would argue that, contrary to popular opinion, I think Crits are safer.
You know, i'd have to agree... I have seen less incidents in crits than out on the open road. It did, however, take me some getting used to in having one guy on each side of me going through a turn at 30mph in a crit. I feel as if more people are generally "aware" during a crit; therefore, possibly making it a bit safer.

just my 2 cents.
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Yea pretty much I am looking for the lesser of 2 evils. I think I might have a teammate in the master's 4 RR but am not sure will have to ask around. I think for the Road Race I will go with the regular 4's but for the circuit race the next day I might check out the master 4's just for kicks.
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