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    For me, it depends on the race.

    I train pretty intensely - to the point that I'll even get on the trainer in the middle of the summer if that will provide me the best opportunity to get my workout in. But sometimes, I am not racing that hard. I've even been accused of being chatty in races because I'm just talking to whomever is next to me. Often times, I don't get a response as they're working hard and not really able to respond or just put off by the idea of chatting during a race. Sure, maybe I could be going harder or attacking at that point, but I enjoy chatting too.

    Other times, I'm the guy going so hard I can hardly see straight let alone talk.

    And if I'm lapping someone, I'll usually give them some encouraging comment or tell them to hop on.

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    my approach to racing the past few seasons has been this - do what makes you happy, enjoy what comes of it. i'm a pretty middle of the road cat 3, but I love riding my bike and I do the rides that make me happy. last summer I did a lot of intervals because i was working an office job, but I enjoyed it a lot. right now i'm riding a lot because I have the time. cat 3 and below bike racing is basically beer league softball, it's not worth getting stressed out about, yo! my favorite races are fast p123 crits. if i have the fitness to finish these on a regular basis, i'm usually pretty happy.
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    I enjoy talking to others and being cordial during races, that is half the fun! All that being said, I train to win and just can't ever see myself racing just to race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topflightpro View Post
    And if I'm lapping someone, I'll usually give them some encouraging comment or tell them to hop on.
    This is a nice problem to have.
    "...during the Lance years, being fit became the No. 1 thing. Totally the only thing. It’s a big part of what we do, but fitness is not the only thing. There’s skills, there’s tactics … there’s all kinds of stuff..." Tim Johnson

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    “If you're not gonna go all the way, why go at all?”
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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousferret View Post
    Never understood this logic. If you don't like to ride, throwing darts or bowling is just as competitive and much safer. I do understand that there's nothing quite like bike racing, but there's quite a bit of solo work that has to be done to be competitive.
    But that's sort of my point. If doesn't matter if you understand because it's what I like and that's what matters.

    It takes a lot of solo work to be competitive in anything. I've liked competing in cycling and running because of the physical and mental attributes necessary to be successful in the sport. You mentioned two games that aren't really sports at all, so it's sort of apples and oranges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
    There are also a bunch of assumptions that manifest repeatedly (not just here). Assumptions such as guys who do well, or are in the higher cats have imbalances in their lives, or take the sport too seriously, etc. Often the success is based on knowledge base (or access to a knowledge base) and efficiency.
    Well put.

    A guy I race with rides three times a week, 5-6 hours. He's a fairly prolific Cat 1 who wins quite a bit. He seems very well-balanced and is a great guy to boot. He just knows how to race very, very well and can utilize his strengths better than most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
    1s are all asses, presumably :/
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    I paced my buddy to a hill-climb PR today. Wish someone had taken a pic. The sizes are just about the same, relatively.
    I hope your buddy realizes he's not getting anymore charity after the next upgrade and will be lucky if you even acknowledge his presence.

    Quote Originally Posted by needmoreair View Post
    But that's sort of my point. If doesn't matter if you understand because it's what I like and that's what matters.

    It takes a lot of solo work to be competitive in anything. I've liked competing in cycling and running because of the physical and mental attributes necessary to be successful in the sport. You mentioned two games that aren't really sports at all, so it's sort of apples and oranges.
    Fair enough. Ultimately its your life and what you enjoy. I too like pushing myself to its limits, so I can understand. The people that rant about cyclists over training have no issues spending 16 hours watching Battlestar Galactica, or spending 6 hours a day playing Candy Crush. The sedentary types always have an interest knocking people off their fitness pedestal. The original post reminded me of David Goggins, who is this an ultra runner that reminds everyone he hates to run.

    Personally, I like to cycle. I can't really handle doing it leisurely and have to push myself but I can do that on a solo ride or in a race. It gets me out of the house, and I get to see things and enjoy the outdoors. If I couldn't race, I'd still cycle, but the competition part makes it funner.

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