Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Page 7 of 11 FirstFirst ... 56789 ... LastLast
Results 151 to 175 of 264
  1. #151
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    1,393
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by ovoleg View Post
    yeah Will saved me, that drive home would of been impossible without him.

    I value the experience in the thread but I'm not convinced that it was all my fault going into that corner. From my POV, I was at the front and I had the Right of Way to go outside into that corner, then all of a sudden this guy appears to the right of me and starts cutting into the line I was going to take. The speed I was going, I could of tried to corner tighter but I wasn't positioned for it. Maybe I'm wrong and he had the right of way coming at me from the outside but this kind of stuff is never learned in any kind of clinic I've ever been in(I've been to 3), or any group ride or race I've been a part of.
    Looked like you got chopped to me. Did that guy ever talk to you after? Missed it if you told us.
    If it was me, I would have felt horrible and tried to help you. It's not about fault, just being decent.
    Good luck with the recovery.

    about holding the door open- my wife held the door of a shop so I could push the baby stroller through and a woman just cuts through.
    Like my wife is holding the door for you????
    Most people think they are "good people", because all the ******y things they do never register.

  2. #152
    Resident Alien Racer Ex's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Let me check.
    My Bikes
    Of course.
    Posts
    11,287
    Mentioned
    16 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by ovoleg View Post

    I value the experience in the thread but I'm not convinced that it was all my fault going into that corner. From my POV, I was at the front and I had the Right of Way to go outside into that corner, then all of a sudden this guy appears to the right of me and starts cutting into the line I was going to take. The speed I was going, I could of tried to corner tighter but I wasn't positioned for it. Maybe I'm wrong and he had the right of way coming at me from the outside
    First, there is no "right of way" in racing. This isn't driver's ed. It's racing. If there is room for some one to try to pass you somewhere, expect to get passed, and that includes if you are a foot from the curb. He didn't "suddenly appear". You weren't paying attention. The guy was almost past you when you ran into him. Unless you were wearing some hipster wrap around sunglasses with blinders he was in your periphery for a fair bit.

    Second, The line you took sucked monkey balls. If I was a primate expert I would use the specific species of monkey that had the largest balls by weight and volume. Calling it a "line" is being incredibly generous, calling it vague wandering is more accurate. And you were going half speed that allowed people to come flying by you in the first place.

    You're not convinced that you were wrong walking out on the freeway because the guy who's car you walked into might have had a beer.

    With 40+ years of 2 wheeled racing under my belt I will opine that if you keep riding like that this kind of thing will happen again.

    If the clinics didn't teach you how to corner or what a racing line was, pm me when you get back up and running and I will take a couple of hours and show you some things that will help minimize the odds of this happening in the future. I hate to read about people getting hurt when it's avoidable.

  3. #153
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    281
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post
    If the clinics didn't teach you how to corner or what a racing line was, pm me when you get back up and running and I will take a couple of hours and show you some things that will help minimize the odds of this happening in the future.
    Interested.

  4. #154
    Powered by Borscht ovoleg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    SoCal
    My Bikes
    Russian Vodka
    Posts
    8,333
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post
    First, there is no "right of way" in racing. This isn't driver's ed. It's racing. If there is room for some one to try to pass you somewhere, expect to get passed, and that includes if you are a foot from the curb. He didn't "suddenly appear". You weren't paying attention. The guy was almost past you when you ran into him. Unless you were wearing some hipster wrap around sunglasses with blinders he was in your periphery for a fair bit.

    Second, The line you took sucked monkey balls. If I was a primate expert I would use the specific species of monkey that had the largest balls by weight and volume. Calling it a "line" is being incredibly generous, calling it vague wandering is more accurate. And you were going half speed that allowed people to come flying by you in the first place.

    You're not convinced that you were wrong walking out on the freeway because the guy who's car you walked into might have had a beer.

    With 40+ years of 2 wheeled racing under my belt I will opine that if you keep riding like that this kind of thing will happen again.

    If the clinics didn't teach you how to corner or what a racing line was, pm me when you get back up and running and I will take a couple of hours and show you some things that will help minimize the odds of this happening in the future. I hate to read about people getting hurt when it's avoidable
    .
    Will do! Again I appreciate the feedback. If I can learn more, I'm all for it!
    -Cat-3-o-meter: TBD :/

  5. #155
    Senior Member furiousferret's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Redlands, CA
    Posts
    2,650
    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    In January, Ovo and I went to a clinic in San Diego. IMO, it covered more on how to win a race than race safety. I did go over cornering, but not much else. I've learned more from posts here (especially X anad cdr) than the clinic.

    My 2c is I'd take RacerX up on the offer, he'll be able to teach you more in 15 minutes than that 3 hour clinic did.

  6. #156
    Resident Alien Racer Ex's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Let me check.
    My Bikes
    Of course.
    Posts
    11,287
    Mentioned
    16 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    It's an open invite for anybody that's interested.

  7. #157
    Senior Member hack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Folsom, CA
    Posts
    1,179
    Mentioned
    8 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post
    It's an open invite for anybody that's interested.
    Let me know if you take the show on the road to NorCal as I'd gladly be up for it...lunch or drinks or whatever provided.

  8. #158
    \_(ツ)_/ Ygduf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Redwood City, CA
    My Bikes
    road bikes
    Posts
    5,889
    Mentioned
    19 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    ^^ first he wants coaching, and now he wants lunch provided too!

    twitter.com/ygduf
    strava.com/athletes/ygduf

  9. #159
    Senior Member hack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Folsom, CA
    Posts
    1,179
    Mentioned
    8 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
    ^^ first he wants coaching, and now he wants lunch provided too!
    gotta see how far i can stretch the e-generosity

  10. #160
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Boulder, CO
    Posts
    7,328
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by rapwithtom View Post
    Interested.

    +1 maybe we can get him to come to CO.
    ...

  11. #161
    Resident Alien Racer Ex's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Let me check.
    My Bikes
    Of course.
    Posts
    11,287
    Mentioned
    16 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
    ^^ first he wants coaching, and now he wants lunch provided too!
    I will see if Subway will sponsor my program. Subway...eat fresh and stay upright!

  12. #162
    formerly dnuzzomueller dz_nuzz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Boston
    Posts
    70
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Wow, sorry that it happened dude. While it looks like it may have been avoidable I can't say I would have done any better. I may have very well punched him in the face if I could have afterwards (Not advocating face-punching). The best part was that after that bonehead move he could hardly control the bike.
    I don't like cats.

  13. #163
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Colorado
    My Bikes
    2013 Trek Domane 6.9+, 2009 Bianchi 928, 1972 Atala Record Pro
    Posts
    162
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Ovoleg: I'm not a racer by any stretch, but for some reason decided to visit this site and stumbled across your thread. Sorry for the late entry.

    Last summer, a month before my 57th birthday, I took a fall in an organized ride and the result was the multiple fratures and repairs pictured below-both to the neck and trachanter. I'm even less of a doctor than I am a racer, so take this with a grain of salt. But my doc worked for a clinic in the mountains, and sees alot of these types of breaks from skiing, biking, etc. One of his partners is also a pretty accomplished bike racer.

    They let me start spinning on a stationary recumbent 3 weeks in. 6 weeks in, I was upright on the trainer, and two months to the day post crash, I was on the road. By four months, I was at about 95% of the level I was at pre-injury.

    All of this was part of an open dialogue with the medical team, and I don't think I pushed them at all. They just approached it the way they would a sports injury for a serious athlete, and I pretended to be one, figuring that at my age, the further I dropped off, the harder the climb back would be. Long winded way of saying, you might want to at least consult with a doc that comes from a sports rehab perspective.

    Whatever the pace of recovery the prospects should be good. BTW: one pain pill? You are a hard guy and then some.
    Attached Images Attached Images

  14. #164
    Senior Member furiousferret's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Redlands, CA
    Posts
    2,650
    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Ovo if you still need a PT I'm sure Tom Danielson could direct you to more than a few

  15. #165
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    129
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by tigat View Post
    Ovoleg: I'm not a racer by any stretch, but for some reason decided to visit this site and stumbled across your thread. Sorry for the late entry.

    Last summer, a month before my 57th birthday, I took a fall in an organized ride and the result was the multiple fratures and repairs pictured below-both to the neck and trachanter. I'm even less of a doctor than I am a racer, so take this with a grain of salt. But my doc worked for a clinic in the mountains, and sees alot of these types of breaks from skiing, biking, etc. One of his partners is also a pretty accomplished bike racer.

    They let me start spinning on a stationary recumbent 3 weeks in. 6 weeks in, I was upright on the trainer, and two months to the day post crash, I was on the road. By four months, I was at about 95% of the level I was at pre-injury.

    All of this was part of an open dialogue with the medical team, and I don't think I pushed them at all. They just approached it the way they would a sports injury for a serious athlete, and I pretended to be one, figuring that at my age, the further I dropped off, the harder the climb back would be. Long winded way of saying, you might want to at least consult with a doc that comes from a sports rehab perspective.

    Whatever the pace of recovery the prospects should be good. BTW: one pain pill? You are a hard guy and then some.
    Thanks for the post. How long were you on crutches & when did you start putting weight on the leg? Your recovery seems very similar to what my doc is predicting. I'm at 4 weeks right now.

  16. #166
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Colorado
    My Bikes
    2013 Trek Domane 6.9+, 2009 Bianchi 928, 1972 Atala Record Pro
    Posts
    162
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by mike12 View Post
    Thanks for the post. How long were you on crutches & when did you start putting weight on the leg? Your recovery seems very similar to what my doc is predicting. I'm at 4 weeks right now.
    I was 25% weight bearing from about 3 weeks in. Ditched the crutch after my week 8 visit. Didn't start running, though, until about 14 weeks. Hurt like the dickens at first, but pretty quickly got everything unstuck and reduced the limp to almost nothing by Christmas.

  17. #167
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    129
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by tigat View Post
    I was 25% weight bearing from about 3 weeks in. Ditched the crutch after my week 8 visit. Didn't start running, though, until about 14 weeks. Hurt like the dickens at first, but pretty quickly got everything unstuck and reduced the limp to almost nothing by Christmas.
    Thanks. I may contact you occasionally through my healing process since everything seems so similar - even the break & nails.

  18. #168
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    1,858
    Mentioned
    13 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    i know a gamma nail when i see one!

    i didn't realize until post-surgery how massive they are....15.5mm diameter and up to 480mm long.

    got on the trainer 36h post-op, but haven't put any pressure on the pedals. i'm going to try for a few watts today.


    Quote Originally Posted by tigat View Post
    They let me start spinning on a stationary recumbent 3 weeks in. 6 weeks in, I was upright on the trainer, and two months to the day post crash, I was on the road. By four months, I was at about 95% of the level I was at pre-injury.

  19. #169
    Powered by Borscht ovoleg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    SoCal
    My Bikes
    Russian Vodka
    Posts
    8,333
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by tigat View Post
    Ovoleg: I'm not a racer by any stretch, but for some reason decided to visit this site and stumbled across your thread. Sorry for the late entry.

    Last summer, a month before my 57th birthday, I took a fall in an organized ride and the result was the multiple fratures and repairs pictured below-both to the neck and trachanter. I'm even less of a doctor than I am a racer, so take this with a grain of salt. But my doc worked for a clinic in the mountains, and sees alot of these types of breaks from skiing, biking, etc. One of his partners is also a pretty accomplished bike racer.

    They let me start spinning on a stationary recumbent 3 weeks in. 6 weeks in, I was upright on the trainer, and two months to the day post crash, I was on the road. By four months, I was at about 95% of the level I was at pre-injury.

    All of this was part of an open dialogue with the medical team, and I don't think I pushed them at all. They just approached it the way they would a sports injury for a serious athlete, and I pretended to be one, figuring that at my age, the further I dropped off, the harder the climb back would be. Long winded way of saying, you might want to at least consult with a doc that comes from a sports rehab perspective.

    Whatever the pace of recovery the prospects should be good. BTW: one pain pill? You are a hard guy and then some.
    Thanks for sharing! I am taking it easy on the trainer right now, today is exactly 3 weeks. I spin for about 20mins applying just enough pressure to turn the cranks in the lowest gear I have which is 39/28, it comes out to about 5-7 mph. Just doing it to keep the legs moving and get the circulation going. I asked the doc and he was cool with it. He's definitely on the cautious side. I'm going to be seeing another doc in a few weeks to get a 2nd opinion and some input as well. When I called another office they told me to see the surgeon who performed the surgery, not sure why, but they wouldn't see me...

    PT is next Tuesday, the earliest appointment I could get with a place that seems to have good reviews and was recommended by a friend. Unfortunately I'm a tad far from Rancho or I'd try Racer X's recommendation and the cycling PT is kind of far from me as well(1.5 hour drive).

    I think my break was probably not as bad as some of you guys where you guys had a lot of pain. The worst pain is when they were scrubbing my road rash on my elbow. The guy kept at it with a lot of pressure for about 20mins, it was a solid 9/10 on the pain level but I figured he was going to be done any moment so why take pain meds if Its going to be over soon? Lol he just kept going and going I was like man...I have never been in so much pain that I needed to take it.

    The worst pain I ever had was after I had shoulder surgery for a torn labrum about 5 years ago. Post OP it hurt like hell so I had to take pain meds on regular intervals for 2-3 days.

    How are you feeling now, a year later?
    -Cat-3-o-meter: TBD :/

  20. #170
    Senior Member shovelhd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Western MA
    My Bikes
    Yes
    Posts
    11,876
    Mentioned
    36 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by tetonrider View Post
    15.5mm diameter and up to 480mm long.
    w*** t** f***

  21. #171
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Colorado
    My Bikes
    2013 Trek Domane 6.9+, 2009 Bianchi 928, 1972 Atala Record Pro
    Posts
    162
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by ovoleg View Post
    How are you feeling now, a year later?
    Thanks for asking. At 10 months, I seldom have reason to think about the injury, beyond an occasional tinge of pain or stiffness. I've logged about 3000 miles ytd, including trainer miles, at speeds better than this time last year. Skied hard and steep without problems. Can run as much as I care to (get bored after 10 miles or so), so no complaints. Doc kept telling me that bones heal, and he was right.

  22. #172
    Village Idiot
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Bahstaaaaan
    Posts
    19,924
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    You should see how they saw the bone up and do hip replacements in the OR. I bet one of the surgeons I know could do it in less than an hour before leaving the resident to close!
    Truth, like light, blinds. Falsehood, on the contrary, is a beautiful twilight that enhances every object.
    -Albert Camus

    Hammer Nutrition 15% discount!!!

  23. #173
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    1,858
    Mentioned
    13 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
    w*** t** f***
    yeah, no $h!t....

    they actually come in 280-460mm lengths. not sure which i have--i'll ask on thursday. judging by the incisions it's on the shorter side...but still at least 30cms.

    the lag screw alone is 70-120mm. the instructions for the installation are available on line...use a reamer to hollow out the bone, drive in the nail, run the lag bolt....set screws, etc. it's some big hardware.

    i'm wondering if i'll be able to do a local run & ride race/event that passes by my house in about 1 month. hm.

  24. #174
    Senior Member grolby's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    BOSTON BABY
    Posts
    6,863
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Racer Ex View Post
    Second, The line you took sucked monkey balls. If I was a primate expert I would use the specific species of monkey that had the largest balls by weight and volume.
    Gotta be a baboon.

  25. #175
    Senior Member Astrozombie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    East L.A.(California)
    My Bikes
    Windsor Dover, Gravity Avenue
    Posts
    743
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Wonder if the sunset had anything to do with it, the other day I almost got run over crossing a street at sunset
    Assume nothing; Question everything

Page 7 of 11 FirstFirst ... 56789 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •