Originally Posted by himespau
(Post 16704958)
I think he's trying to get us to get him all riled up, so he can get some sort of "nobody believed in me, but I did it" boost out of the whole thing. Not saying echap is a troll in general, but this sure feels like tilting at windmills to me at this point.
i do not need the gratuitous adulation of strangers to buoy my ego |
Originally Posted by Ygduf
(Post 16705255)
I did 24 minutes off the front of a 4-corner crit solo at 27mph. Where do you draw your line?
At a Crit... This is where I draw the line.... Crit Checklist... Wheels .... light responsive.... Tires ..... grippy and narrow Gearing .... 52-48 / 12-21 Helmet ..... Same I used for previous day's road course Kit ..... Skinsuit Plan .... ride near the front and conserve energy until last few laps Last few laps ... create or get in a break.. Note to self ..... don't get boxed in ... In our region there is a Crit ( Ninigret Park, Charlestown R.I. ) where strategy of staying out of the wind is super critical.. it's a 6 corner course on an old airfield close to the ocean... Always windy and it's a crosswind on 75% of the course. Aero would be preferable, but even high profile wheels become unmanageable from the crosswinds... It's an interesting course where riding in a phalanx or echelon, single file on the rivet, and every other strategic way of saving energy is utilized each and every lap... On this course, rarely does a solo rider stay away. It's a course where strategy rules, where teamwork amongst breakaway riders either make it or break it... Bike handling is absolutely critical... Cris are about bike handling, pack strategy and careful monitoring of one's reserve... Not riding all out at a constant 30mph+ and minimizing drag.:giver: |
Originally Posted by echappist
(Post 16705500)
Incorrect.
i do not need the gratuitous adulation of strangers to buoy my ego |
Can't see a reason the deviate from my standard gearing. 53/39x23/11. I regularly use 53x23 at anything with a hill, like bethel.
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
(Post 16705255)
I did 24 minutes off the front of a 4-corner crit solo at 27mph. Where do you draw your line?
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Arent you a cunning linguist;)?
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Originally Posted by Moyene Corniche
(Post 16704885)
Arbiter ??? Hardly, just that an Aero helmet in a ( at least a 4 corner crit ) is as valuable as wheel covers... |
Originally Posted by Moyene Corniche
(Post 16705573)
In our region there is a Crit ( Ninigret Park, Charlestown R.I. ) where strategy of staying out of the wind is super critical.. it's a 6 corner course on an old airfield close to the ocean... Always windy and it's a crosswind on 75% of the course.
Aero would be preferable, but even high profile wheels become unmanageable from the crosswinds... It's an interesting course where riding in a phalanx or echelon, single file on the rivet, and every other strategic way of saving energy is utilized each and every lap... On this course, rarely does a solo rider stay away. It's a course where strategy rules, where teamwork amongst breakaway riders either make it or break it... Bike handling is absolutely critical... Cris are about bike handling, pack strategy and careful monitoring of one's reserve... Not riding all out at a constant 30mph+ and minimizing drag.:giver: Your gearing is really old school. Half step on what must be a downtube shifter bike. Ninigret is one place where I will run an 11-21. Pan flat. 53/39 standard up front. |
Originally Posted by shovelhd
(Post 16705596)
We've got guys up here that race crits with wheel covers. You might even recognize the names. Just sayin'.
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Originally Posted by Moyene Corniche
(Post 16705573)
In our region there is a Crit ( Ninigret Park, Charlestown R.I. ) where strategy of staying out of the wind is super critical.. it's a 6 corner course on an old airfield close to the ocean... Always windy and it's a crosswind on 75% of the course. Aero would be preferable, but even high profile wheels become unmanageable from the crosswinds... It's an interesting course where riding in a phalanx or echelon, single file on the rivet, and every other strategic way of saving energy is utilized each and every lap... On this course, rarely does a solo rider stay away. It's a course where strategy rules, where teamwork amongst breakaway riders either make it or break it... Bike handling is absolutely critical... Cris are about bike handling, pack strategy and careful monitoring of one's reserve... Not riding all out at a constant 30mph+ and minimizing drag. |
Originally Posted by mattm
(Post 16705384)
man if only you'd held it for two minutes longer!
next time all aero or gtfo. |
Originally Posted by Moyene Corniche
(Post 16705573)
Cris are about bike handling, pack strategy and careful monitoring of one's reserve...
Not riding all out at a constant 30mph+ and minimizing drag.:giver: |
Originally Posted by Moyene Corniche
(Post 16705573)
Cris are about bike handling, pack strategy and careful monitoring of one's reserve...
Not riding all out at a constant 30mph+ and minimizing drag.
Originally Posted by Racer Ex
(Post 16706211)
My pack strategy is not to be in the pack, even when I catch them the first couple of times.
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Originally Posted by botto
(Post 16705780)
incorrect.
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Originally Posted by shovelhd
(Post 16705596)
We've got guys up here that race crits with wheel covers. You might even recognize the names. Just sayin'.
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Originally Posted by gsteinb
(Post 16705585)
Can't see a reason the deviate from my standard gearing. 53/39x23/11. I regularly use 53x23 at anything with a hill, like bethel.
And a 39 is totally needless at Ninigret... |
did you use your 48?
:unsure: I used maybe 3 gears before the sprint. Point was that changing gears for a crit, when you've already got a bunch in the same vicinity seems like needless noodling. |
Originally Posted by Moyene Corniche
(Post 16706327)
Incorrect on what basis ??? Ninigret is not interesting ? A course that you can never underestimate since the conditions drastically change from the last time you raced there....
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Originally Posted by botto
(Post 16706575)
incorrect because its a course on a WW2 era airfield. if you think that's interesting, then i suggest you get out a bit more.
Evidently I see you take each word literally.... Ninigret is interesting, but not in the singular definition you assumed I meant... |
You're welcome. This one is on me. Next time, I'll have to charge you.
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i got tired of changing cassettes all the time so put 11x28s on all my wheels and done with a 53x39 on the front. If I cant find what I need in those 20 choices, then i'll compensate.
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Yeah, I can't really be bothered to change cassettes around. 12-25 for everything. If I do Hilltowns this year, I'll swap to a 12-28 or 12-30, but only because I'll be picking up a couple of those for the 'cross bike I'm putting together this spring/summer.
I've never done Ninigret, but flat and windy doesn't really sound like my cup of tea. Anyone who's met me can guess why. |
I rock a 11-25 on my race wheels, and a 12-28 on my training wheels. I use both for races depending on how much i care about the race. Cassettes never won or lost me a race (How i almost always use my zipps so i normally have my 11).
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I'm an optimizer.
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was this race this past weekend/ what was the outcome?
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