Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

"The 33"-Road Bike Racing We set this forum up for our members to discuss their experiences in either pro or amateur racing, whether they are the big races, or even the small backyard races. Don't forget to update all the members with your own race results.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-08-14, 11:08 AM   #51
mattm
**** that
 
mattm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: CALI
Bikes:
Posts: 13,889
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 209 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post


Like Strava, just without any riding required.
Few can touch my 33 KOM!
__________________
cat 1.

blog
mattm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 11:36 AM   #52
furiousferret
Senior Member
 
furiousferret's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Redlands, CA
Bikes:
Posts: 4,669
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 109 Post(s)
What ticks me off about KOM's is many of them are owned by Domestic Pro's from our annual stage race. Its bad enough these guys get to ride all day but now they are taking KOM's from honest, underpaid, hard working Americans that sit in a cubicle all day?
furiousferret is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 11:40 AM   #53
waterrockets 
Making a kilometer blurry
 
waterrockets's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Austin (near TX)
Bikes: rkwaki's porn collection
Posts: 26,130
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mattm View Post
Few can touch my 33 KOM!
Adorable.
waterrockets is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 12:11 PM   #54
Racer Ex 
Resident Alien
 
Racer Ex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Location, location.
Bikes:
Posts: 12,618
Mentioned: 39 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 92 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by furiousferret View Post
What ticks me off about KOM's is many of them are owned by Domestic Pro's from our annual stage race. Its bad enough these guys get to ride all day but now they are taking KOM's from honest, underpaid, hard working Americans that sit in a cubicle all day?
In a few years Strava will have outsourced all the KOM's to Belgians.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ovoleg View Post
People who hate on strava remind me of people who hate computers and cell phones.
There's a difference between a computer and AOL. Computer numbers continue to climb since the first one came out.

My guess is when the new, better UBERRide platform comes out, the Strava user numbers will look like AOL, which was hot stuff back in the day:



Strava is like Hacky Sack and New Kids on the Block. This too shall pass. When it does those of you who go apoplectic when anyone so much as makes a funny about it being like New Kids on the Block or Hacky Sack will be puzzled at why you defended it like someone insulted your mama.

Yo mama so ugly that...

Last edited by Racer Ex; 05-08-14 at 12:16 PM.
Racer Ex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 12:20 PM   #55
waterrockets 
Making a kilometer blurry
 
waterrockets's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Austin (near TX)
Bikes: rkwaki's porn collection
Posts: 26,130
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
yo mama so fat she sat on an iphone and turned it into an ipad.
waterrockets is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 12:20 PM   #56
Wylde06
Senior Member
 
Wylde06's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NW Ohio
Bikes: Cannondale Six13
Posts: 1,814
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 38 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by furiousferret View Post
What ticks me off about KOM's is many of them are owned by Domestic Pro's from our annual stage race. Its bad enough these guys get to ride all day but now they are taking KOM's from honest, underpaid, hard working Americans that sit in a cubicle all day?
Definitely a California problem and not an Ohio problem.

I need to move out of Ohio...or at least get out of NW Ohio
Wylde06 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 12:32 PM   #57
ColnagoC40
Senior Member
 
ColnagoC40's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: North Carolina
Bikes: Vitus 979 x 2, Vitus 992, Colnago C40, Colnago C60
Posts: 362
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moyene Corniche View Post
Just downloaded Strava App to my I-phone yesterday...
Okay... It was useful as to elevations and mapping of this loop.. 35 miles and 1,669 feet of climbing. Time wise it's not realistic as it doesn't distinguish between riding and stopped time unlike my now retro Mavic Wintech...

I find the listing of sections of my ride with best times by people rather amusing, not in the least bit relevant but amusing nevertheless.
I will however use this as it is useful for tracking training but as far as joining the record seeking group I just don't get what the point is...

Am i missing something or is it as it strikes me more gimmick than anything else... ??
Give Strava time, it will grow on you.

Check Google, there are great deals going now on the Garmin 800 and the upgrade to the 810 which is still expensive is not much, making the 800 a great buy.

Sometimes I ride with Strava recording on my phone, sometimes with Cyclemeter (It sends wifey pings so she knows where I am still breathing), sometimes I ride with my Garmin 800, indoors I use Virtual Training on a laptop. I upload all my data to Strava though and will consolidate and analyse it there.

Once you get into the KOM's they are fun. I have a few segments where no one else have ridden the whole segment, it comes in handy to compare my best time to my current ride. If I try and get first on the leader board for a segment, I wait until there are ideal conditions, with a strong wind behind me. :-) Then perhaps a month later, I get a note that someone was faster.

The new playback function is great. My last race was a start 5 minutes after the Masters and right now I can play back the race with about 30+ riders who use Strava. I can see how we (Cat4) started closing the gap on the Masters and then one rider among the Masters got dropped, took a short cut different route and joined them again to finish in the bunch. Hilarious.

You can also start a private group and keep track of your friend's training, rides and data.

In short, I have access to Garmin connect, Cyclemeter, Mapmyride and Virtual Training. I find Strava the best. In Strava you can also plan a route, or copy another rider in your area's route and download it to your Garmin.
ColnagoC40 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 12:37 PM   #58
ColnagoC40
Senior Member
 
ColnagoC40's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: North Carolina
Bikes: Vitus 979 x 2, Vitus 992, Colnago C40, Colnago C60
Posts: 362
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by furiousferret View Post
What ticks me off about KOM's is many of them are owned by Domestic Pro's from our annual stage race. Its bad enough these guys get to ride all day but now they are taking KOM's from honest, underpaid, hard working Americans that sit in a cubicle all day?
Don't take KOM's too seriously. Strava will catch data if recording was in your car and you can flag unrealistic times from cheaters, to get them deleted. But there are still loopholes. I do not cheat, and won't tell you how, but if I wanted to, I can beat any KOM, anywhere in the world, with a realistic time, while not leaving North Carolina.

If you don't believe me, send your best KOM link by PM and I will show you as a test.

Last edited by ColnagoC40; 05-08-14 at 12:45 PM.
ColnagoC40 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 12:57 PM   #59
mattm
**** that
 
mattm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: CALI
Bikes:
Posts: 13,889
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 209 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ColnagoC40 View Post
. I do not cheat, and won't tell you how, but if I wanted to, I can beat any KOM, anywhere in the world, with a realistic time, while not leaving North Carolina.
This?

DigitalEPO.com
__________________
cat 1.

blog
mattm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 01:01 PM   #60
ColnagoC40
Senior Member
 
ColnagoC40's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: North Carolina
Bikes: Vitus 979 x 2, Vitus 992, Colnago C40, Colnago C60
Posts: 362
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mattm View Post
Nope. Here is a tip. With digital EPO you have to actually ride the route and then tweak the ride. I can beat someones time in France tonight, while being in North Carolina.

I actually think Strava has improved their software and digital epo no longer works??

I don't think there is a way out of the loophole I found. I found out by accident. Nuff said.

Last edited by ColnagoC40; 05-08-14 at 01:08 PM.
ColnagoC40 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 01:04 PM   #61
ovoleg
Powered by Borscht
 
ovoleg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SoCal
Bikes: Russian Vodka
Posts: 8,344
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wylde06 View Post
Definitely a California problem and not an Ohio problem.

I need to move out of Ohio...or at least get out of NW Ohio
Paul Martin has all the KOM's where I used to live in NEO. I saw him at the track once and told him when I was getting back on the bike his times were motivating me to get faster and faster. He chuckled and said as long as people are riding bikes, anything that motivates them is great.
ovoleg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 01:10 PM   #62
carpediemracing
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Tariffville, CT
Bikes: Tsunami Bikes
Posts: 14,699
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 112 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ColnagoC40 View Post
The new playback function is great. My last race was a start 5 minutes after the Masters and right now I can play back the race with about 30+ riders who use Strava. I can see how we (Cat4) started closing the gap on the Masters and then one rider among the Masters got dropped, took a short cut different route and joined them again to finish in the bunch. Hilarious.
haha
__________________
"...during the Lance years, being fit became the No. 1 thing. Totally the only thing. It’s a big part of what we do, but fitness is not the only thing. There’s skills, there’s tactics … there’s all kinds of stuff..." Tim Johnson
carpediemracing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 01:19 PM   #63
carpediemracing
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Tariffville, CT
Bikes: Tsunami Bikes
Posts: 14,699
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 112 Post(s)
wow I've never seen the playback in action. Just "watched" the last race, it was interesting. The crash at the bell (suddenly riders stopped, others were going much slower), the sprint, a break that got caught, etc. Really cool. The ability to pause etc is nice. It includes, for many riders, the warm up, so it's interesting to see that while I was pinning my number the others were rolling around warming up etc.
__________________
"...during the Lance years, being fit became the No. 1 thing. Totally the only thing. It’s a big part of what we do, but fitness is not the only thing. There’s skills, there’s tactics … there’s all kinds of stuff..." Tim Johnson
carpediemracing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 01:21 PM   #64
wphamilton
rugged individualist
 
wphamilton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Alpharetta, GA
Bikes: Nashbar Road
Posts: 10,391
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 432 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ColnagoC40 View Post
Don't take KOM's too seriously. Strava will catch data if recording was in your car and you can flag unrealistic times from cheaters, to get them deleted. But there are still loopholes. I do not cheat, and won't tell you how, but if I wanted to, I can beat any KOM, anywhere in the world, with a realistic time, while not leaving North Carolina.

If you don't believe me, send your best KOM link by PM and I will show you as a test.
http://www.strava.com/segments/6557116?filter=overall is my commute KOM, but it might be difficult since it's marked "private".
wphamilton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 01:35 PM   #65
ColnagoC40
Senior Member
 
ColnagoC40's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: North Carolina
Bikes: Vitus 979 x 2, Vitus 992, Colnago C40, Colnago C60
Posts: 362
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by wphamilton View Post
http://www.strava.com/segments/6557116?filter=overall is my commute KOM, but it might be difficult since it's marked "private".
Link takes me nowhere.

You have to send me the segment where you have the KOM, or where you feature on the segment leader board. Don't need your Strava name. Preferably a short segment, the longer the segment the more time it will take me.

Or, all I need is a map where the segment is, any map with the start and end of the segment.
ColnagoC40 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 01:42 PM   #66
wphamilton
rugged individualist
 
wphamilton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Alpharetta, GA
Bikes: Nashbar Road
Posts: 10,391
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 432 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ColnagoC40 View Post
Link takes me nowhere.

You have to send me the segment where you have the KOM, or where you feature on the segment leader board. Don't need your Strava name. Preferably a short segment, the longer the segment the more time it will take me.

Or, all I need is a map where the segment is, any map with the start and end of the segment.
Well it's marked "private" so you have an added difficulty. The link was to the leader board.
wphamilton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 01:50 PM   #67
mattm
**** that
 
mattm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: CALI
Bikes:
Posts: 13,889
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 209 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ColnagoC40 View Post
Nope. Here is a tip. With digital EPO you have to actually ride the route and then tweak the ride. I can beat someones time in France tonight, while being in North Carolina.

I actually think Strava has improved their software and digital epo no longer works??

I don't think there is a way out of the loophole I found. I found out by accident. Nuff said.
To have so much power... how do you handle it??
__________________
cat 1.

blog
mattm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 01:52 PM   #68
ColnagoC40
Senior Member
 
ColnagoC40's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: North Carolina
Bikes: Vitus 979 x 2, Vitus 992, Colnago C40, Colnago C60
Posts: 362
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by wphamilton View Post
Well it's marked "private" so you have an added difficulty. The link was to the leader board.
Sorry, but to post a time slightly better than the KOM best time on a piece of pavement, I have to know where the piece of pavement is.
ColnagoC40 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 02:00 PM   #69
wphamilton
rugged individualist
 
wphamilton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Alpharetta, GA
Bikes: Nashbar Road
Posts: 10,391
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 432 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ColnagoC40 View Post
Sorry, but to post a time slightly better than the KOM best time on a piece of pavement, I have to know where the piece of pavement is.
A segment on this ride Bike Ride Profile | Evening Ride near Alpharetta | Times and Records | Strava, the segment is called "My Evening Commute". I wanted to see if you could hack past the "private" - in my defense you did say "any KOM anywhere".
wphamilton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 02:04 PM   #70
ColnagoC40
Senior Member
 
ColnagoC40's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: North Carolina
Bikes: Vitus 979 x 2, Vitus 992, Colnago C40, Colnago C60
Posts: 362
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by wphamilton View Post
A segment on this ride Bike Ride Profile | Evening Ride near Alpharetta | Times and Records | Strava, the segment is called "My Evening Commute". I wanted to see if you could hack past the "private" - in my defense you did say "any KOM anywhere".
OK, I will post back in this thread when done. Maybe tonight, maybe the week-end. Nice challenge.
ColnagoC40 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 02:12 PM   #71
bbbean 
Senior Member
 
bbbean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Missouri
Bikes: Giant Propel, Cannondale SuperX, Univega Alpina Ultima
Posts: 1,524
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 50 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by waterrockets View Post
FWIW: most of the common KOMs in Austin are held by domestic pros or Cat 1s.
Not fair! Why should they get KOMs just because they're fast?
__________________
www.beancotton.com
Formerly fastest rider in the grupetto, currently slowest guy in the peloton

bbbean is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 02:16 PM   #72
furiousferret
Senior Member
 
furiousferret's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Redlands, CA
Bikes:
Posts: 4,669
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 109 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by waterrockets View Post
FWIW: most of the common KOMs in Austin are held by domestic pros or Cat 1s.
When they're caught doping does the City of Austin give the #2 guy the KOM or do they just vacate it?
furiousferret is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 02:17 PM   #73
bbbean 
Senior Member
 
bbbean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Missouri
Bikes: Giant Propel, Cannondale SuperX, Univega Alpina Ultima
Posts: 1,524
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 50 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by carpediemracing View Post
wow I've never seen the playback in action. Just "watched" the last race, it was interesting. The crash at the bell (suddenly riders stopped, others were going much slower), the sprint, a break that got caught, etc. Really cool. The ability to pause etc is nice. It includes, for many riders, the warm up, so it's interesting to see that while I was pinning my number the others were rolling around warming up etc.
How do you play a race back? I'm not seeing the option.
__________________
www.beancotton.com
Formerly fastest rider in the grupetto, currently slowest guy in the peloton

bbbean is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 05:20 PM   #74
carpediemracing
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Tariffville, CT
Bikes: Tsunami Bikes
Posts: 14,699
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 112 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by bbbean View Post
How do you play a race back? I'm not seeing the option.
I didn't see it either so I googled it.

First you go here:
http://labs.strava.com/flyby/

Then you put in the URL for the Strava Activity you want to view. For me, my example was:
Bike Ride Profile | 4/19/2014 Mystic Velo Crit, melted in the wind. near Charlestown | Times and Records | Strava

Finally you check off who you want to view in the playback from the list of riders. The green C is Correlation - the higher the number the more probable they actually rode with you. The purple S means they rode the same roads but not necessarily at the same time, so in a crit they probably did a different race if their C is low. The red D is how far they rode, if their number is really wacky then either they rode a ton or they got shelled.

I selected everyone that was over 50% for C. You can pause and select more or deselect the ones that are obviously not racing or whatever. For me there was a guy Don at 70% C but he was watching the race from the side so I deselected him.

Finally hit the play button. It's fun. Think of significant events in the race - breaks, chases, primes, final sprint, crashes, and you'll see them sort of played out. In my event there was a slow-mo crash just before the bell and you can see how the field just explodes after that, due to some people slowing hard, a few Strava riders falling, and the field itself just splintering under pressure. It really strings out for the finish.
__________________
"...during the Lance years, being fit became the No. 1 thing. Totally the only thing. It’s a big part of what we do, but fitness is not the only thing. There’s skills, there’s tactics … there’s all kinds of stuff..." Tim Johnson
carpediemracing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-14, 05:47 PM   #75
rapwithtom
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Bikes:
Posts: 737
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 46 Post(s)
this is a super cool feature!

I wonder if you can overlay different times...let's say I want to compare a Mt Tam ascent last week with a PR a year ago...
rapwithtom is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:58 AM.