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    Quote Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
    I will keep an eye out for you. Normally I would be in your race but it's right before the M55+ which is my first A race of the year. I gotta save it. I plan on doing the 1/2/3 depending on time commitments.
    Super, but what's all this A race stuff?
    if I win a race anytime, I'm set.
    You periodization fella's kill me

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    I don't periodize as much as I used to. It's more of a priority thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike868y View Post
    who's racing in new england this weekend? purgatory is one of the best road races on the schedule, i'll be there in the cat 3. i'll also be at nutmeg on saturday!
    I had originally planned on doing Purgatory, but the way this season is going I think I'll be doing some endurance riding and saving my bullets (and cash) for Longsjo. Good luck!

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    thanks! i'll be at the sunday fitchburg round. friday is out due to work, and I think I'm going to do hunter mountain on saturday. never done one of those and it's way more appealing to me than sitting around all day to do a 45 minute evening crit.
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    it depends

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    I'm really on the fence about Worcester. Doing it will hurt my chances for Fitchburg, which I have a shot at winning, but I have roots in the area and always wanted to race there. Decisions.

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    isn't it a three day omnium?

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    You guys know if the Wells Ave training races will happen on July 6th? And how do you register for those, I don't see it on bikereg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
    isn't it a three day omnium?
    It is a three day omnium for M40+ but you can race each one separately. Fitchburg has an M50+ field this year, not combined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rankin116 View Post
    You guys know if the Wells Ave training races will happen on July 6th? And how do you register for those, I don't see it on bikereg.
    No online registration. Race details are at http://bostonroadclub.net.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
    It is a three day omnium for M40+ but you can race each one separately. Fitchburg has an M50+ field this year, not combined.
    I think I plan on exeter and then chasing the omnium at fitchburg. then hanging in the north country with isadorah's family for the holiday week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
    No online registration. Race details are at http://bostonroadclub.net.
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsteinb View Post
    I think I plan on exeter and then chasing the omnium at fitchburg. then hanging in the north country with isadorah's family for the holiday week.
    Let's talk on Sunday. Your plans influence mine.

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    You're going to come hang with my wife's family?





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    On boy. That would be your worst nightmare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by globecanvas View Post
    The Rockleigh A race last week was a sight to behold. 4 guys from the Venezuela national team were there, and they lined out the field from start to finish. The field averaged over 27 mph for the race. One of the Venezuelans went with 3 to go and got about 10 seconds almost immediately, which he held to the finish. The four of them took the top four spots.
    We averaged over 25mph for our 4/5 race, so is 27mph for a p/1/2/3 that much more impressive, especially in a pack of 50 riders? The faster laps we did were done in 2:12, or 26mph. I'm not saying I could have hung on at the faster pace, but I don't think their race was that much faster considering the race was only 45 minutes. Now if it was a 4 hour race then the difference in speed would seem more impressive to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramercy View Post
    We averaged over 25mph for our 4/5 race, so is 27mph for a p/1/2/3 that much more impressive, especially in a pack of 50 riders? The faster laps we did were done in 2:12, or 26mph. I'm not saying I could have hung on at the faster pace, but I don't think their race was that much faster considering the race was only 45 minutes. Now if it was a 4 hour race then the difference in speed would seem more impressive to me.
    average pace means literally nothing in a race.

    e.g. Berkeley hills, e3s did the entire lap in 57min. fastest p12 lap was 61min. Fastest p12 times over the 3 bumps? 17min. Fastest e3 times over the 3 bumps, 18:30.

    which race was "faster?"

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    Well, this was a 1-mile 6-corner crit, and they did literally every lap between 26 and 30 mph. They were single file from start to finish. Choose whatever metric you want, it was a fast race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by globecanvas View Post
    Well, this was a 1-mile 6-corner crit, and they did literally every lap between 26 and 30 mph. They were single file from start to finish. Choose whatever metric you want, it was a fast race.
    I'm sure it was. I'm just saying that it's not the averages that make a race, it's the amplitude of the selective bits. And as always, generalizing.

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    Maybe I'm not following. How did we add two turns to the rock?

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    Hey, they are the ones who call it 6 turns, here: https://www.bikereg.com/inc/content/...Series2014.pdf

    To me it's 4 corners and a squiggle.

    But whatever, there's nothing to argue about here. I watched some fast guys put the hurt on some other fast guys and it was fun.

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    that's funny.

    yeah…it's a four turn crit with a less than straight back side.

    even funnier is the idea that the 4/5 race was (as almost as hard) (despite being shorter and 2 mphs slower) than the 1,2,3 (which may have had a pro in it) with a bunch of venezuelan hot shots who were committed to getting one of their riders a solo win and then mopping up the field sprint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by globecanvas View Post
    But whatever, there's nothing to argue about here.
    You sure about that????


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    hey, we stay out of your no cal racing thread, you stay out of the ne racing thread, capiche?

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    it's spelled capisce, paisan

    btw, i'm hoping to see you at ToWC and Church Creek. i've been out of action far too many times this year due to upper respiratory tract viral infections that i decided to sign up for races only when i'm totally sure i'm fine...

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