Gramercy

You could do Lou Maltese in Central Park, but I bet those fields will be stacked. That's probably only 70 minutes for you but start time is insanely early.

carpediemracing 

I didn't think I said under 100w, and 120w is pretty normal for me for an avg slow ride.

I check my slope religiously now, didn't in 2008 (when I had some wacky numbers, including what I think was a 268w FTP test result). I also calibrated the spider after battery replacement using weights (50 lbs in plates, plus chains, so quite a bit of weight), ended up with the same variable as the factory sticker on the spider (whatever that number is called that you put into the SRM, it's 24.9 or something like that, my other SRM is 22.7 or similar).

On the hills I was going so slowly I was almost falling over. Granted, it took a bit of time before I felt that way, maybe an hour into the actual ride (120 min into the ride recording). I was also sick, but still, that doesn't change the soreness factor. I pushed when I was about to fall over, I'd ease when not in danger of falling over. I was going pretty slow.

Some shots of the power file from that day:
Overall power for the 3 main segments (ride to the ride, the ride with 2 rest stop stops), the ride back isn't on this as I split it off by accident.


Closer up of the portion after the first rest stop (the second break in the overall power file in the bottom part of the image). I started fading hard before the first stop but I could still dig a bit at the beginning of each hill. However I was having a lot of problems getting over the top of each little hill.


Section after the first rest stop, when I felt horrible. You can see it's pretty far into the ride based on the summary image thing at the bottom of the picture. You can also see the speeds and power, coasting as soon as I hit a descent, pedaling when I hit the next hill.

TheKillerPenguin

I would, but it's SO. EARLY. I'd have to wake up at 2:30 to get there on time.

globecanvas

Those races are weird. No masters fields, and cat 1s/2s are team invitational only?

gsteinb

Maltese is a team race. Winner is based on team placing. Granted the overall winner is a big deal, the real prestige there is the team award though.

gsteinb

100-120…not sure I could pedal that up a hill. That's all.

carpediemracing 

Also my legs are totally not sore today, which was the reason I mentioned the power and all that before. Even when I'm working hard I can't work hard enough to get my legs sore.

Sunday's race. I don't know how to get data for a given bit of a GC file so I put in numbers for "length of interval" to get race numbers. Never sprinted, sat up last lap. I just saw now my HR got into the mid 170s just before I sat up, maybe that was part of the reason I felt kind of bad, I typically max out at 177-178 bpm. I looked down maybe 5-6 times during the race and my HR was 160 each time, which is tough but (race-)sustainable for me. Avg for the race was 159bpm so that makes sense. 1099w peak, 175w avg. xPower is 192w, I think that's supposed to be normalized power. I don't think there's anything wacky about the numbers here.



Shot of the picture part. Pretty steady, no weird spikes because this was all just siting in. Spikes for accelerating out of turns, lots of spikes for that of course. Seems avg speed was 27 mph, which is lower than the "over 28mph" that I've seen people throw around on FB postings:



Strava's interpretation of the KB race. Gotta love the 425w avg, even the 1299w peak. Strava makes me look good:

mike868y

you're welcome to crash at my place friday or saturday night to make it more worth it.

carpediemracing 

You should try it, it's not impossible. I tried to find something not too extreme from the file. I was down to 87w at one point that I saw. On the ride I was trying to stay over 100w because my teammate was actually waiting for me and pulling me pretty much from about 10-15 min before the first rest stop until the end of the ride.

Also 120w is just 35w lower than my avg power in the first Aetna Nutmeg Spring Races at Bethel (blew up in the sprint, @globecanvas placed). It's not a crazy number.

globecanvas

I really wish they would remove the estimated power feature. You probably know this, but if you have ANT+ or BT power, it will use that instead of making up numbers, and it will do useful and correct things with the numbers.


In that race I placed on 183w AP. Tiny power club represent!

gsteinb

yeah, and see mine (different race, of course) was 250 avg and a 305 norm. @ a few pounds less. So, yeah crazy to me.

TheKillerPenguin

GC, CDR, and I had a fewest watts contest one race. I think GC won that round, I was able to get down to 200AP/240ishNP but he was somewhere in the 180's?

edit: Bristol was 222AP/294NP for 2:42, CDRs numbers consistently blow my mind.

Mikey, thanks for the offer, I'll let you know what I decide to do.

globecanvas

181 AP / 214 NP in that one, 7th place. I won the lowest-power contest via the cunning strategy of not telling you guys it was a contest until after the race.

This Sunday's RR was 195 AP / 228 NP and I was super active. Plus I'm fatter and I think a little taller than gsteinb. Of course I didn't get any kind of result so there is that.

globecanvas

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mike868y

eh, i'll probably still do it anyway.

dz_nuzz

Seconded.

Really, I mean what is this? Good thing @mike868y is in the process of convincing me to go to Nittany.

gsteinb

I have no idea what that configuration of words means. But unless the tour of the catskills is 90 minutes or less it's outside of my wheelhouse anyway.

island rider

So, there goes any chance I have of ever doing the TOC again. I guess I'll have to do it this year for nostalgic purposes.

shovelhd

You surf wheels to stay at the front. He coasts at the back and moves around a few times.

gsteinb

well that may be true, but that just makes the numbers still crazy to me. 155 is a recovery ride for me. it isn't avg power in a race, so it's hard for me to wrap my head around all that.

FFJ

Hey TKP, just went back through this thread reading old posts, and realized who you were. We talked a bit during Whiteface, and I was rocking a similar jersey to you (although from 2014) on Sunday at Bristol.

The finish Sunday was odd. No one was willing to take a chance on a flyer late or even push the pace leading into the uphill sprint. I was soft-peadling at the front in the last 1k, but it wasn't until the road pitched up at 500m to go that anyone went around.

Also, re TOC, I think it would be great to have a Battenkill-esque one day race at some point in the summer. Depending on the course Dieter picks, it could be a great change.

TheKillerPenguin

Oh right on, yeah. It was a funny race in some ways because sticking us with the upper cat guys seemed to neutralize us until the finish. I felt really good the final time up the climb and thought about taking a flyer, but we seemed to be going pretty easy and I also figured that since the 1/2/3's had guys off the front the best case scenario was that I'd be used as a carrot and be brought back. 1min power is the weakest part of my profile, and the climb to the finish was about 1min exactly (for me anyway).

Good racing with you, I'm sure I will see you around.

FFJ

I'll be at Maltese this weekend domestiquing for the sprinters and the Cat 1/2s, and have a few weeks off from racing after, but I bet we'll cross paths at some of the hillier races in August.

mike868y

it's going to be awesome! @theKillerPenguin should come party too.

TheKillerPenguin

I've got unfinished business with Devil's Kitchen.