This started talking about national champs and olympics, why did it devolve into talking about amateurs? I don't even think anyone but pro/1/2 fields should have cash prizes, so no I don't care about a $10.99 trophy. But I do think pros that help a teammate win nats should get a little flag or something put on their jersey for the year. That would be nice.
I think every Category should get paid out - you are paying to enter a race, so some of the fees should come back to you. There is a race next weekend in Central Park - paying out $8,500 to the P/1/2/3 categories, $1,100 to Cat 3 and $750 to Cat 4. Cat 5 only gets medals. I think it's a decent amount of cash to win something that you enjoy to do, that's not your primary source of income. I like riding, and would love to podium and take home a few hundred bucks one time.
I think everyone in all races should receive ponies.
Even people who thought about racing, or want to, but just haven't made it out yet.
Ponies for everyone!!!!11
Yes, if Ted King had somehow won nationals as the lone rider for Cannonwhale (1980s reference) this year, he would have done it without a team. (Forgetting, for the moment, the idea of a combine with other single riders.) And therefore, he would have to share the glory with no one. And it's certainly possible to win with almost no team. Timmy Duggan in 2012 is a good example. It was just he and King riding in the Liquigas colors that year. If at some point in that race Ted King's efforts helped ensure victory for Duggan, then it was a team effort. No matter how small the team.
I have my intros written out in advance. And I save them because I'll probably need them again in Colorado.
Most every recreational endeavor costs money to participate in. There are inherent flaws in a model where folks get paid for racing. Huge purses for park races, in a city with quite a large number of drug positives, incidences of cheating, and general recklessness seems to me a prescription for continued difficulties. I'd be happy with the $10.99 trophy, a medal, or a jersey. Cat 5s opining that they want to get paid out a few hundred bucks for winning a race is ponderous.
A bunch of years ago, in order to do a particular early morning series, my son needed to sleep over someone's house. Since I felt bad about it I have him my prize money throughout the series. He got a pretty good chunk of change.
What's the problem here.
If I had to base my opinion on my abilities on my results, my opinion wouldn't be nearly as high.
Somewhere during the Amgen, I did see Tom Boonen referred to as a stage x winner of the 2010 Amgen (or whatever year it was), but nothing else from his cycling history. I can't imagine he'd have anything from the Tour of California as one of his personal race highlights.
I think this is a great question, Jamie. I like the idea of teammates having a small icon on their kit, like a striped shield or something with the date in it.
Team tactics most certainly play a part in pro criteriums. Just watch Bissell or UHC chop their way to victory.
I think all I said was "Ladies and Gentlemen, it's Tom Boonen!!" and the crowd filled the other 57 seconds with cheering. Less is more.
#21 Tom Boonen
age 33 Mol Belgium
4x winner of Paris Roubaix
3x Winner of Tour of Flanders
multiple stage winner in all three Grand Tours
2005 World Champion
TRIVIA: 2x World Champion. Road and….. TTT in 2012
TRIVIA - Has ridden for just two teams: QuickStep and USPostal
So far in 2014. Winning Kurne Brussels Kurne 7th at Flanders 10th at Roubaix 2nd overall, the sprinters jersey, AND 2 stages at Tour of Qatar.
Thus far this year, he has 5782.1 kilometers of racing According to procyclingstats.com
And talking about what constitutes a TEAM and who gets a piece of the trophy...
Even the NFL practice squad players get a Super Bowl ring.
The comparison dealt with a leader receiving credit for doing what a leader does. That I have to break that down and explain it to you says enough on its own.
Your asinine comment was just that. It wasn't a rebuttal, it was just you regurgitating vitriol because you had nothing else to contribute. Work on it.
You can take whatever glory you need to take to make you feel like you're doing something worthwhile. At the end of the day, the only glory is the one bestowed to the guy that crossed the line first. That's why we have "winners". That's why we have "titles".
Yeah, silly me, thinking a RACE is about something other than the fastest person getting across the line first. As if bike racing is the only sport utilizing such a "non-organic" system of rewarding the first person to finish the glory.
How crazy we humans have been throughout history.
A teammate that doesn't win nats is NOT the winner. This is a ridiculously simple concept and I'm having a really hard time figuring out how anyone can think that a person that does NOT win a race should be rewarded in the same vein as someone that does.