If cycling is a team sport, why do we award single medals?
05-29-14, 08:06 PM
#76
Banned
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 198
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Person....covering the distance the fastest.... fastest....fastest....
I feel like I need to draw a picture for some of you.
05-29-14, 08:08 PM
#78
Banned
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 198
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
05-29-14, 08:08 PM
#79
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Western MA
Posts: 15,669
Bikes: Yes
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
05-29-14, 08:12 PM
#80
Banned
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 198
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
05-29-14, 08:26 PM
#81
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ChapelBorro NC
Posts: 4,126
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 98 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Why?! If half the peloton has it then what's the point? It loses all value.
A teammate that doesn't win nats is NOT the winner. This is a ridiculously simple concept and I'm having a really hard time figuring out how anyone can think that a person that does NOT win a race should be rewarded in the same vein as someone that does.
A teammate that doesn't win nats is NOT the winner. This is a ridiculously simple concept and I'm having a really hard time figuring out how anyone can think that a person that does NOT win a race should be rewarded in the same vein as someone that does.
05-29-14, 08:31 PM
#82
Banned
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 198
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
my mistake.
edit: again.
still a stupid idea. the point of a race is to win. if you don't win, you don't win!
is everyone on the team going to get this little "i didn't win" stripe? Even if they weren't in the race?
well, 2 of the guys were at uspros so they'll have a red/white/blue I didn't win stripe.
4 more were at the "insert country" champs, so they get that stripe.
And these 9 were at the Tour, so they get a yellow strip.
oh, and these three were on the world champs team, so they get that. of course, the other 5 dudes were on 5 other trade teams, so they get that, too, just let their teams know.
nevermind. this idea is awesome. thanks for convincing me.
Last edited by needmoreair; 05-29-14 at 08:36 PM.
05-29-14, 09:49 PM
#83
Making a kilometer blurry
Arguing is fun, but this is starting to seem unfair.
05-29-14, 10:02 PM
#84
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Redwood City, CA
Posts: 10,978
Bikes: aggressive agreement is what I ride.
Mentioned: 109 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 967 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times
in
4 Posts
Are you serious?
You can take whatever glory you need to take to make you feel like you're doing something worthwhile. At the end of the day, the only glory is the one bestowed to the guy that crossed the line first. That's why we have "winners". That's why we have "titles".
You can take whatever glory you need to take to make you feel like you're doing something worthwhile. At the end of the day, the only glory is the one bestowed to the guy that crossed the line first. That's why we have "winners". That's why we have "titles".
I've both given and received compliments on riding done for a teammate. It's a nice feeling having someone tell you that you rode well and controlled the race for a teammate who won/placed. Is that not some form of glory?
05-30-14, 05:17 AM
#86
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Western MA
Posts: 15,669
Bikes: Yes
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
05-30-14, 06:23 AM
#88
out walking the earth
I've cried. ER with a shaterred elbow and the sinking feeling my season was over. harden up tough guys. real men cry
05-30-14, 06:48 AM
#89
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 386
Bikes: Vitus 979 x 2, Vitus 992, Colnago C40, Colnago C60
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
BTW, perhaps let the TDF organizers know, they used the wrong English for publishing all their new teams, as "team" does not exist in cycling, or it is not a "team" sport.
Last edited by ColnagoC40; 05-30-14 at 08:59 AM.
05-30-14, 07:18 AM
#90
In the Pain Cave
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 1,672
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I don't think anyone is saying the whole team should get the same reward as the winner
A small star/strip on the bib shorts maybe for the team with the winner getting the jersey + accolades and all that accompany the win to the single individual.
A small star/strip on the bib shorts maybe for the team with the winner getting the jersey + accolades and all that accompany the win to the single individual.
05-30-14, 07:21 AM
#92
out walking the earth
I could see a member of a tour de france winning squad getting to put a small yellow jersey emblem on their kit, perhaps until the next tour, or maybe for life. worlds is weird though since sometimes you have trade team members supporting their lead riding for another country.
05-30-14, 07:21 AM
#93
out walking the earth
05-30-14, 07:26 AM
#94
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,840
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 31 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I could see a member of a tour de france winning squad getting to put a small yellow jersey emblem on their kit, perhaps until the next tour, or maybe for life. worlds is weird though since sometimes you have trade team members supporting their lead riding for another country.
05-30-14, 07:34 AM
#95
Senior Member
needmoreair on the other hand has never cried. He takes curdled milk in his coffee and eats baby porcupines for breakfast. And he knows that winning a bike race is serious business and no one cares about those other chumps who showed up to lose.
05-30-14, 07:35 AM
#96
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 13,443
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4224 Post(s)
Liked 2,944 Times
in
1,803 Posts
There do seem to be very similar dynamics in them.
__________________
Bikes: 1996 Eddy Merckx Titanium EX, 1989/90 Colnago Super(issimo?) Piu(?),1990 Concorde Aquila(hit by car while riding), others in build queue "when I get the time"
Bikes: 1996 Eddy Merckx Titanium EX, 1989/90 Colnago Super(issimo?) Piu(?),
05-30-14, 07:42 AM
#97
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Western MA
Posts: 15,669
Bikes: Yes
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
05-30-14, 07:45 AM
#98
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Western MA
Posts: 15,669
Bikes: Yes
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by grolby;
needmoreair on the other hand has never cried. He takes curdled milk in his coffee and eats baby porcupines for breakfast. And he knows that winning a bike race is serious business and no one cares about those other chumps who showed up to lose.
05-30-14, 08:46 AM
#99
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,840
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 31 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
lol.
we discuss doping, take hard stands about "cheaters" all the time, and hear about it on the news with some frequency. Some of the things I've personally heard on the news over excuses for failures being related to sample handling, chain of custody issues, mix ups, etc., have always landed hollow on my ears, but in the absence of actually being subject to the process, I didn't have first hand insight to their veracity.
Since I now have actually been tested, I thought it was a good thread to provide some first hand insight into the process, and to have a thread where dialogue could be had over the how and where.
instead, it turned into an obtuse discussion about the merits of testing, petty arguments, and lastly casting insults. <shrug> such is life.
we discuss doping, take hard stands about "cheaters" all the time, and hear about it on the news with some frequency. Some of the things I've personally heard on the news over excuses for failures being related to sample handling, chain of custody issues, mix ups, etc., have always landed hollow on my ears, but in the absence of actually being subject to the process, I didn't have first hand insight to their veracity.
Since I now have actually been tested, I thought it was a good thread to provide some first hand insight into the process, and to have a thread where dialogue could be had over the how and where.
instead, it turned into an obtuse discussion about the merits of testing, petty arguments, and lastly casting insults. <shrug> such is life.
05-30-14, 08:54 AM
#100
commu*ist spy
lol.
we discuss doping, take hard stands about "cheaters" all the time, and hear about it on the news with some frequency. Some of the things I've personally heard on the news over excuses for failures being related to sample handling, chain of custody issues, mix ups, etc., have always landed hollow on my ears, but in the absence of actually being subject to the process, I didn't have first hand insight to their veracity.
Since I now have actually been tested, I thought it was a good thread to provide some first hand insight into the process, and to have a thread where dialogue could be had over the how and where.
instead, it turned into an obtuse discussion about the merits of testing, petty arguments, and lastly casting insults. <shrug> such is internet.
we discuss doping, take hard stands about "cheaters" all the time, and hear about it on the news with some frequency. Some of the things I've personally heard on the news over excuses for failures being related to sample handling, chain of custody issues, mix ups, etc., have always landed hollow on my ears, but in the absence of actually being subject to the process, I didn't have first hand insight to their veracity.
Since I now have actually been tested, I thought it was a good thread to provide some first hand insight into the process, and to have a thread where dialogue could be had over the how and where.
instead, it turned into an obtuse discussion about the merits of testing, petty arguments, and lastly casting insults. <shrug> such is internet.