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    Podium etiquette

    Some thoughts for your next podium shot:

    1) What I call "arm balance" - only the winner puts up both arms, everyone else puts up their outside arm

    - if not the winner, put your other arm (the inside one) on the small of the back of the guy next to you

    - Natural elbow angle: don't have your arm at a 90-degree angle like a "stick 'em up!" pose (I've seen this!), or on the other hand a completely straight arm.. a slight bend looks best

    2) Wear your kit. Even if you have to change back into it, please please were your damn kit. Just a jersey is better than nothing, but it looks ridiculous with whatever street clothes you have on.

    3) No helmets!! (I've broken this rule, it's easy to forget)

    - sunglasses ok, team hats ok

    Steve Tilford actually covered most of this on his blog: Podium Etiquette, Let?s Send Joseph to Europe, etc. | Steve Tilford

    If you won, make sure you congratulate the other guys up there. It’s only sporting. The guy at the top of the podium, ie the winner, is normally the only one gets to put both his arms up. The guys are either side should just put up one. Preferably their outside arm. If the guy that won grabs the other guys hands, then it is kosher for the 2nd and 3rd place guys to have both arms in the air. You should try to only wear you cycling clothing to the podium. Team kits. There aren’t many excuses for this rule.
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    Also:

    - Clench your quads so hard that your vision starts to red out and you are at risk of spontaneous pooping. Be sure to sustain the clench until you are certain that all possible photographs have been taken.

    - If the podium heights are unclear, or if you are in California where they line up a half dozen guys on either side of the podium to make sure everyone gets a pony, hold up a number of fingers to represent your placing. In California, or if your day job is framing carpentry, this may require two hands. This is an exception to the "one hand" rule above.

    - If you don't have a buddy or significant other there, give your phone to one of the other podium guys' girlfriend and tell her to take at least a dozen shots to make sure at least one is in focus. Make the other podium guys wait until you check over the photos and post them to instagram and your team tumblr, in case you were blinking or the girlfriend took a video by mistake.

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    Perfect!!

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    Fast people problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by globecanvas View Post
    Also:

    - Clench your quads so hard that your vision starts to red out and you are at risk of spontaneous pooping. Be sure to sustain the clench until you are certain that all possible photographs have been taken.

    - If the podium heights are unclear, or if you are in California where they line up a half dozen guys on either side of the podium to make sure everyone gets a pony, hold up a number of fingers to represent your placing. In California, or if your day job is framing carpentry, this may require two hands. This is an exception to the "one hand" rule above.

    - If you don't have a buddy or significant other there, give your phone to one of the other podium guys' girlfriend and tell her to take at least a dozen shots to make sure at least one is in focus. Make the other podium guys wait until you check over the photos and post them to instagram and your team tumblr, in case you were blinking or the girlfriend took a video by mistake.
    Ah yeah, I forgot about flexing those guads!!

    Another thing I forgot is to hold the pose for longer than you think you might need to. It feels weird, but hold those arms up and that smile for a good 10-20+ seconds, until everyone is done taking photos.
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    Personally I almost never need to worry about this stuff. However they're all good tips for a race promoter to put on the race's site.
    "...during the Lance years, being fit became the No. 1 thing. Totally the only thing. It’s a big part of what we do, but fitness is not the only thing. There’s skills, there’s tactics … there’s all kinds of stuff..." Tim Johnson

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    Way to go mattm.
    This thread is desperately needed and should be shared with every USAC licensee.
    #1 is definitely most important.

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    Never been on a podium, but I have never understood the whole arm raising thing. If I ever get on there, especially the 1 spot, I am doing something different/unique to celebrate my first win.

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    At the race our team put on back in January, a guy came up to the registration table to ask about the podium photos.

    "What podium photos. We don't do podium photos. It's a training race."

    "But my sponsor wants a photo."

    "Fine, go stand on the picnic table and someone will take your picture."

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    "hover hand" is weird. It's ok to touch someone and the gap is almost always noticeable. I feel like the podium is one place outside of a rainy belgium race where a cycling cap _IS_ OK, too.

    I prefer athletic shoes to cycling shoes, but I guess that's a timing thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oespinoza83 View Post
    Never been on a podium, but I have never understood the whole arm raising thing. If I ever get on there, especially the 1 spot, I am doing something different/unique to celebrate my first win.
    You should sit on the podium with your face in your hands and look really sad!!

    That will show everyone.
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    I'll add...if you make it on to the podium, show up to the podium pic. I figure you just raced your ass of to get a podium spot, the least you could do for your team (or yourself/friends/family) is show up for the pic. I think a podium pic that is missing a person is worse than off balanced hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterrockets View Post
    fast people problems.

    Also:

    yes!
    Oh the usual...some carbon fiber, some deep wheels, some electronic shifting, and not enough money.

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    I'd love any podium pic. The only top 3s I got were a few of the cat 5 early bird races... I beat a bunch of other newbs like myself, yay! All I got was the chance to nonchalantly move my hand up a few inches while examining my data when the mentor asked who won.

    About not showing... what if it's cold and raining? I've seen some empty podium spots in those conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronmcd View Post
    About not showing... what if it's cold and raining? I've seen some empty podium spots in those conditions.

    If there's a podium and they take pics, for the race website, series, or whatever, I feel like you should show up. Not everyone wins or places, so if someone is pumped to finally land a 2nd place, and 3rd place doesn't show up, their pic looks weird.

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    Also take food and water. You don't want to bonk in the green room.

    Quote Originally Posted by oespinoza83 View Post
    Never been on a podium, but I have never understood the whole arm raising thing. If I ever get on there, especially the 1 spot, I am doing something different/unique to celebrate my first win.
    Have you never seen the end of American Flyers? It's required. Kevin Costner insists!

    Quote Originally Posted by hack View Post
    I'll add...if you make it on to the podium, show up to the podium pic. I think a podium pic that is missing a person is worse than off balanced hands.
    At Grand Rapids crit last year, UHC swept 4 of top 5. The only non-UHC guy (4th place) came up and asked how deep the podium went. It goes to three. Always. He begged. Needed a photo for his sponsor. The UHC guys were fine with that. Whatever.
    So guess who misses the podium? Seriously, it was like 30 seconds later and he was nowhere to be found. Comes back 10 minutes later all cleaned up asking if we can reshoot it.

    We didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattm View Post
    You should sit on the podium with your face in your hands and look really sad!!

    That will show everyone.
    I was thinking Breakfast Club fist pump

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    I just don't get it when they go 5 deep. They wanted us all in the shot b/c prizes went 5 deep. Felt really weird. I was 4th and just kept my arms down

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    let me solve this.

    everyone should have to line up and the winner gets the only step. 1 winner. the rest are losers. @needmoreair knows

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    I have one win, and they did the podium while I was racing a later race. Thankfully someone grabbed my medal :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattm View Post
    2) Wear your kit. Even if you have to change back into it, please please were your damn kit. Just a jersey is better than nothing, but it looks ridiculous with whatever street clothes you have on.
    The biggest stage race around here (Banff bike fest) takes this so seriously that you forfeit half your payout if you miss the presentation or wear street clothes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waterrockets View Post
    Fast people problems.
    Nope, this was the real score of the day:
    Quote Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
    If it comes down to a field sprint, you probably won't win, so don't let it.

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    As someone who's on the podium every weekend, this stuff eventually just becomes second nature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
    let me solve this.

    everyone should have to line up and the winner gets the only step. 1 winner. the rest are losers. @needmoreair knows
    This!

    Everyone else must stand in shame.
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    What about the fluff it or stuff it rule. That has to be in there somewhere?

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