bmcphx

I have a pretty bad habit of stopping for coffee at some point in every ride, usually when the fun part is over and I have to make the 6mi garbage mile trek home. Lately, everyone has been wanting to go to a place that has inside seating and they can stay out of the cold, and I really don't like it because the coffee girl reminds me of the soup Nazi from Seinfeld.

"what is a flat white?" she said today. I must have looked like I wanted to strangle her (not in a good way) because she said she would figure it out.

I can't understand how you become a barista at a really high rent, coffee specific place and have no idea what the drinks even are.

mattm

So wtf is a "flat white" anyway?

I thought I was fancy for knowing the diff between a wet & dry cappucino!

grolby

As far as I'm concerned, a coffee shop should be able to do two things well:

1. Great drip coffee, and
2. Great espresso.

All the goofy frou-frou "coffee drinks" should be considered just a bonus over and above the basics.

Dunbar

It's basically a latte. I honestly would just ask for a latte unless they had a flat white on the menu.

mattm

So what you're saying is bmcphx is a coffee snob! I see.

Enthalpic

Follow two simple rules:
1) Be attractive.
2) Don't be unattractive.

gsteinb

low salary and high turnover.

grolby

Yeah, seriously. People sure expect an awful lot of a workforce that makes $10/hr, if they're lucky.

mike868y

being a barista can be miserable. hell hath no fury like stressed out, over privileged undergrads before they've had their coffee. furthermore, flat whites aren't terribly common in america, so it's not that surprising that she didn't know what it was (but at a good cafe, they should know). that being said, making good lattes/cappis is most definitely a part of being a good cafe. being good at steaming milk aint easy, folks.

also, tip your barista.

caloso

Flat white = latest variation on drinking lots of milk and sugar while pretending to like coffee.

mike868y

umm, no?

furiousferret

I guess this explains why you're no longer angry 24/7.

mattm

Service jobs in general really suck.

I paid my dues (bad waiter at two Chinese restaurants in/after college), and always look people in the eye and tip even if they suck.

bmcphx

If you're going to bemoan something, at least make sure you're on point. You couldn't be further off.

And flat white was on their menu, it's not like I was trying to stump her.

caloso

I believe it's still more milk than coffee, isn't it?

furiousferret

I stop for coffee most morning rides. I'm turning into a middle aged cliche. Usually its 30 minutes easy to the coffee shop, eat, then another 30 minutes easy / warm up.

bmcphx

It is less milk than a cappuccino or latte but more than a cortado, and it's very frothy. The espresso does most of the talking.

Ygduf

The mistake anyone is making is thinking there are high-rent coffee places in Phoenix.

joking, as JVC hates when people say phoenix is ****ty.

bmcphx

unnecessary.

No need to post smug bull**** about every place that isn't where you live being inferior. Don't like Phoenix? Don't ****ing come here.

Ygduf

if you'd have quoted me you'd have found the white text!

Enthalpic

I just booked a week off work after new year and need to decide where to go. Obviously it needs to be warmer than here, which isn't hard, and hopefully has some decent cycling nearby. This will be a vacation with some cycling not a training camp.

Last January I did Tucson -which was great- but I want to go somewhere new. I was thinking San Diego Mission valley area, what do the socal people think of that idea? Where would be better? Assume I have a rental car.

bmcphx

That wasn't there until your edit, bastard.

bmcphx

If you want to ride bikes don't go to mission valley, anywhere north County is good.

Ygduf

nah, it really was. I edited out the 2nd half of the white text that was "though some part of it are!"

Anyway, just ****ing with you.

mattm

I guess this is what happens when you don't get your flat whites eh?