island rider

You have to read the reviews and the Q&A responses.

TheKillerPenguin

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Ygduf

thanks, I missed that on first click.

gsteinb

calm down.

TheKillerPenguin

https://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/80007215?trkid=13462100

This was fun to watch on the trainer.

furiousferret

That's the one. The official start is around 1750 and summits at 4600. Comparatively to Onyx (8200), the 18 (6200), and the Baldy Ski lifts (6000) and about 10 other summits it doesn't get too high, but its steep!

Ygduf

this collision engine test is a metaphor for so many things
https://i.imgur.com/iLoDJ9I.gifv

bmcphx

I really wish that was real.

Alaska Mike

For those of you who know him, John Lackey just won the Iditarod Trail Invitational in record time. He beat the record sled dog team time to McGrath by 8 hours. Not bad for a broken-down old roadie.

TheKillerPenguin

I shaved one leg today. The other might happen tomorrow.

mattm

no comprende.

furiousferret

I wouldn't, the drag on the inner leg will help you corner better in crits. Just be sure you got the correct side.

TheKillerPenguin

****.

TheKillerPenguin

Maybe they'll let me ride it against traffic.

tetonrider

that was just day 1.

i only know because a guy who lives around here does all this ridiculous stuff. he can do like 190W for 2 weeks but no short efforts. he wins these things by not sleeping or sleeping less than everyone else. he holds the current record for the trail divide....basically eating gas station food along the way. kind of gross.

most people are far more impressed with riding a bicycle slowly for a week than, say, hanging in a p/1 crit. i'm generally a to-each-their-own kind of guy, but the love for long slow distance stuff sometimes bugs me.

misterwaterfall

To the uninformed riding for a week without rest of even a 200 mile Fondo sounds more impressive than a 90 minute crit at 50 kph or a 90 rr. People have nothing to compare to so even if you tell then speed or watts or whatever they assume it's ordinary across the board.

mattm

As someone who's done 600km rides (in 40 hours or less/riding through the night/etc), in some ways that stuff is harder than doing a p/1/2 crit.

The speed is way less, the risk is way less, but the suffering is stretched out waaay longer.

Riding through the night takes all sorts of mental toughness/crazyness that doesn't really need to be accessed in road races.

Of course there are all kinds of skills/risks that come up in road racing that are not required in longer stuff.

The two can't really be compared; anyway I agree it's annoying that most people don't "get" road racing the way they seem to get longer stuff.

My boss asked how my "ride" went a few weeks ago, it really broke my heart. I think he pictured me crossing under a banner next to a tandem, receiving a medal and eating a hot dog.

tetonrider

yes--sorry if i was a bit unclear. i didn't mean to imply that going long is anything other than different from, say, that p12 crit--but in terms of interest from people in general the "i biked 360 miles at one time" gets a lot more oohs and ahhs than "i went rilly rilly hard for an 8-minute TT."

i find there's a culture of being ok with a moderate amount of suffering stretched over a very long time as being more of a worthy "thing." most people would rather jog a marathon (or ultra!) than turn themselves inside out in a 5k, for example. it's almost like there's a built-in excuse for being slow.

now, there are those who go very long and​ fast....

gsteinb

tell someone you finished an ironman and you'll be the hardest man in their eyes until the end of time.

MDcatV

any of you characters environmental geologists who want to live in san diego? PM me if so.

Alaska Mike

Most of the guys who win the ITI are the same guys who on the pointy end for road races. Most roadies up here have fatbikes for the winter so they can avoid the trainer.

merlinextraligh

hey, now, lets not be dissing tandems.

tetonrider

i can't speak for most, but this guy won it in 2013 and is currently leading and could NOT win a road race in the lower 48 that is under 9 hours.

i don't know if you are talking about the winners being at the pointy end of road races in AK, or generally speaking. lots of fat bikers around here and the winter riding seems to translate more to the MTB in the summer than to the road (vs the trainer).

tetonrider

i think there's a "completitor" (not a typo) that exists these days. a 20h ironman is harder than a 15-minute 5k. (it's not.)

i think something is lost when the goal changes from competing (in any form) to completion.

MDcatV

"i can ride a bike for 75 minutes"