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Old 06-21-16, 10:57 PM
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That's going to put a damper on things if people can't share videos.
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Originally Posted by Creakyknees
Help me here guys. I'm a regular on the tu-thurs hammerfest group ride
Reverse drop the hammerheads. Just let them go.
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this theme tho wth.

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I'm not anti all change, but this change, yeah, I'm with you 100%.
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seeing the simper overlay of the new webpage, and the fact that I no longer get notifications about quotes, I'll take a stab at the dark and say that the newer format uses up less bandwidth.
I will say the User CP link is easier to find/hit with my fat fingers than the old settings was when I'm using the full version on my mobile device - something I almost never do as I prefer a full screen, a keyboard, and the ability to have multiple tabs open at once.

I don't know whether it's letting people post bigger pictures or what, but it sure felt like a pic heavy thread I went to uploaded slower than in the past, though.
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Creaky, that sounds like a fairly common problem. I see it here regularly, and I have not found a solution for it here.

When I lived in Texas, a police officer who did the ride frequently warned guys about not stopping at a stop sign at the bottom of a hill. So, one week, there was a police car sitting there and pulled everyone over who didn't stop. He gave them all tickets. That fixed the problem.
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Originally Posted by globecanvas
Reverse drop the hammerheads. Just let them go.
Honestly, this does work. It's like ignoring a troll. If they notice that they were intentionally reverse-dropped, they will lose all interest and stop running stop signs. if they don't notice (just as some trolls do not notice that they are being ignored), they will continue to run stop signs but who cares, they are doing their own thing.

However, accomplishing this does require not caring if the reverse-dropped hammerhead goes away thinking he has crushed everyone's soul, similar to how ignoring a troll requires not caring if the troll goes away thinking everyone has tacitly acknowledged the superiority of his comments.
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Originally Posted by globecanvas
Honestly, this does work. It's like ignoring a troll. If they notice that they were intentionally reverse-dropped, they will lose all interest and stop running stop signs. if they don't notice (just as some trolls do not notice that they are being ignored), they will continue to run stop signs but who cares, they are doing their own thing.

However, accomplishing this does require not caring if the reverse-dropped hammerhead goes away thinking he has crushed everyone's soul, similar to how ignoring a troll requires not caring if the troll goes away thinking everyone has tacitly acknowledged the superiority of his comments.
At school we had a guy that insisted on hammering on all the group rides. He didn't listen to input very well. One day when he took off as usual we let him go up the road and simply turned off our regular route. "Oh, yeah, we did hills that day" or whatever. I was basically the ride leader and I made the call. The guy made maybe another ride or two and that was that.
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man, that MNT match was difficult to watch. at least i had no expectation of them doing well, but the mid-field and defense got pick-pocketed pretty good...
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It was definitely ugly. Some of those giveaways looked like a bad college team or something.
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My son is sitting here in an Argentina jersey watching the replay!
We enjoyed watching a few of the Euro games while in Scotland/England. Great atmosphere watching with a crowd in a pub!
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Old 06-22-16, 09:28 AM
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Where's Tim Howard?
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Originally Posted by globecanvas
Honestly, this does work. It's like ignoring a troll. If they notice that they were intentionally reverse-dropped, they will lose all interest and stop running stop signs. if they don't notice (just as some trolls do not notice that they are being ignored), they will continue to run stop signs but who cares, they are doing their own thing.

However, accomplishing this does require not caring if the reverse-dropped hammerhead goes away thinking he has crushed everyone's soul, similar to how ignoring a troll requires not caring if the troll goes away thinking everyone has tacitly acknowledged the superiority of his comments.
Clarification for everybody - this is not about a hammerhead hammering.

This is about a ****head who runs stop signs, while on the front, towing the group. The ****heads behind, are following his wheel.

It is my contention and firm belief that the rider on the front of the group has a responsibility to watch out for the safety of the group behind.

This particular individual disagrees.

If it were so simple as to "just let him go" that would be easy, but that's not how it plays out.

Meanwhile I'm in a messaging "debate" with the guy this morning. All I get is excuses.

And no, I don't want to stop attending the ride, it's a good ride, good workout, good friends, except for one or two people who seem to have some social issues.
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Old 06-22-16, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Creakyknees
If it were so simple as to "just let him go" that would be easy, but that's not how it plays out.
Why not?

Seems like you have two options.

1- talk to the other guys on the group and agree to just let the guy go when he runs a stop sign. It's only unsafe for other people if they choose to follow him.

2- live with it.

If you can't accomplish #1, that means the outlier on the ride is you, not the stop sign runner.
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And if what GC implies is true, then you need to give up on the ride.

Is this a club ride? If so, is everyone a member? Tell the idiots you will have the club revoke their membership if this continues. You don't need those kind of riders. You can also meet with the police.

No ride is worth risking my life and the lives of my friends.
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That stuff is also why drivers hate on us. It makes us all look bad.
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Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin
That stuff is also why drivers hate on us. It makes us all look bad.
I agree wholeheartedly with this.
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Old 06-22-16, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin
That stuff is also why drivers hate on us. It makes us all look bad.
I'm not sure all bike-hate would stop the minute we stopped running stop signs.

I mean drivers run stop signs all the time; the term "California stop" wasn't coined for bike riders...
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It doesn't help em view us as less of a nuisance is all I'm sayin. It's one thing to go through a stop sign if it's obvious there's no traffic, it's another to have your default be hammer through all of the things.
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Originally Posted by mattm
I'm not sure all bike-hate would stop the minute we stopped running stop signs.

I mean drivers run stop signs all the time; the term "California stop" wasn't coined for bike riders...
It certainly woudn't hurt. And drivers don't run stop signs like cyclists run stop signs. It's very, very rare I don't see a car at least below 5 mph. Cyclists roll through at 20 sometimes, with traffic around. Sure, if there is no traffic I'll roll it at 10 or 15 or whatever, but if there's any question I'd rather stop. It's good exercise starting from a stop anway, I don't get the need to run them (unless it's a steep hill, because screw starting on a steep hill).

There are some 15-20% hills around here, and I was worried if I stopped I'd fall over because I'm using old style Keo cleats without the grips. I almost fell on some stones the other day because my cleat slipped.
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Friday is my last day at my current job, and Monday is my first day at my new job.

I've been here 4.5 years, and while I have been unhappy with a lot of things in my current job, I'm feeling a bit bummed to be leaving.

One of the main reasons for leaving is our federal contract expires at the end of September, at which point my job may have been terminated. A new contract RFP was supposed to come out in April, but didn't come out until today. I think I would have enjoyed working on the new contract - assuming we won it.

Also, I'm not terribly excited about the new gig. It's not quite the step forward in my career I was seeking. It's basically doing the same thing at another organization for a bit more money. And, I don't really have a good sense of whether I will fit in there. I only had one interview with them - I expected to have a second round as I have always had a second round - but they offered me the job based on just the one meeting.

Still, I accepted the position because I knew I needed to find something.
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I run red lights if stopping puts me in a position to get hit; meaning if no one is there and a car is coming up I'll go so he doesn't have an opportunity to hit me if he runs the light. Every decision I make when interacting with vehicles is on the assumption they'll do the dumbest thing possible.

A few weeks ago I broke this rule and a car went through the stoplight at 55 mph. Missed me by about 6 feet.

In group rides I typically stop, but then again you're usually overruled and some dude will run it.
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Even if your new job isn't the Nirvana you're hoping for, it'll keep you in rice and beans until that job comes along.

I completely understand about leaving before the end of the contract. I retired about three years earlier than planned because I thought my company would keep the federal government contract we had, and I was wrong.
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Originally Posted by TheKillerPenguin
That stuff is also why drivers hate on us. It makes us all look bad.
+1

I watched two people riding just the other day. One ran a stop sign at full speed, probably 25-28 mph, just as a car that had stopped properly pulled into the intersection. There was almost a meeting of bike and car.

Cyclists who justify running stop signs are idiots, full stop.

Run them and be ready to pay the consequences, whatever the laws are. If you don't think you should stop for stop signs then at least come out and say it, don't bull**** and make up excuses and stuff. Just say "**** it, I don't want to stop and **** you all"
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Originally Posted by topflightpro
Friday is my last day at my current job, and Monday is my first day at my new job.

I've been here 4.5 years, and while I have been unhappy with a lot of things in my current job, I'm feeling a bit bummed to be leaving.

One of the main reasons for leaving is our federal contract expires at the end of September, at which point my job may have been terminated. A new contract RFP was supposed to come out in April, but didn't come out until today. I think I would have enjoyed working on the new contract - assuming we won it.

Also, I'm not terribly excited about the new gig. It's not quite the step forward in my career I was seeking. It's basically doing the same thing at another organization for a bit more money. And, I don't really have a good sense of whether I will fit in there. I only had one interview with them - I expected to have a second round as I have always had a second round - but they offered me the job based on just the one meeting.

Still, I accepted the position because I knew I needed to find something.
Sorry to hear it's maybe a little towards the bitter side of bittersweet. Sounds like it's still net positive and needed to be done. You'll make the best of it.
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