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    Just ordered a powertap, now what? where to start?

    Could yall point me to some good sources on the web with instructions on how to start training with a power meter? I've done some googling and haven't found a good summary.

    I'm a 40 year old aspiring-to-be-fast rec rider with dreams of racing one day. Took up the bike again this summer after many years of not touching it.

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    yes. get that or see stickied threads in this very forum.

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    What wheel is it in/where will you use it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doge View Post
    What wheel is it in/where will you use it?
    back wheel. I'm getting the very basic low-end deal from performancebike (CycleOps PowerTap G3 Alloy Shimano Wheelset with Joule 1.0 Computer). I'm going to use it wherever I ride, out on the road, on trainer too. I'm trying to go cheap here. I'm on a 7 year old Motobecane. After putting in about 650 miles, I'm able to do a 19mph avg. (including non-movement) group ride over 30 miles, in the not very hilly environs of Dallas. Been riding with no computer at all, just strava in my pocket. When I was in my early to mid 30s, I did a couple of centuries under 5 hours. I was nothing special, but I wasn't garbage. By physiological nature, I am not an endurance athlete. I was a 400m sprinter. So I tend to be able to bring on a fair amount of effort over a short period, but I am not one of those guys who can just spin and spin. It doesn't come naturally to me, I have to work at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ygduf View Post
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    I missed the giant thread below about power training. So I got some places to look. Thanks. Probably going to download golden cheetah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikewaters View Post
    back wheel. ...
    I should have asked racing or training / tubular or clincher. I saw Jens had meter, but did not see a display that he could see. We've been using power since about 94 mostly on trainers and also the power tap. I rigged a tandem setup where we would train at 500watts for a bit. After a 5 year break started using it again for measurement purposes. Nothing we do for training is power based and it is not used for racing. HR is still a good measurement of effort. Some coaches think you should ride to power and let HR be a result of power and others see it as a measurement tool. Seems more used in TTs, although we don't. Still just about all the pros race with one.

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    this guy needs to change his profile pic already

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikewaters View Post
    I just bought the 2006 edition of this book used. Any comments on what I may be missing by not having the 2010 edition?

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    Displays are illegal in most track events.

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    new random thought thread?

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    No, but the leakage in here lately has been getting out of control. The 41 refugee thread is basically dormant.

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    how'd we move to using displays on the track...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doge View Post
    I should have asked racing or training / tubular or clincher. I saw Jens had meter, but did not see a display that he could see. We've been using power since about 94 mostly on trainers and also the power tap. I rigged a tandem setup where we would train at 500watts for a bit. After a 5 year break started using it again for measurement purposes. Nothing we do for training is power based and it is not used for racing. HR is still a good measurement of effort. Some coaches think you should ride to power and let HR be a result of power and others see it as a measurement tool. Seems more used in TTs, although we don't. Still just about all the pros race with one.
    I assume we made the jump here to talking about track rules after referencing Jens' hour record attempt???

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikewaters View Post
    I just bought the 2006 edition of this book used. Any comments on what I may be missing by not having the 2010 edition?
    I have the 2010, not 2006. The new book reviews some of the new power meters in the beginning. Ones that were not available in 2006. I expect the W/kg charts to be newer too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer3287 View Post
    I assume we made the jump here to talking about track rules after referencing Jens' hour record attempt???
    I missed that and couldn't find it when I reread the thread. thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doge View Post
    I have the 2010, not 2006. The new book reviews some of the new power meters in the beginning. Ones that were not available in 2006. I expect the W/kg charts to be newer too.
    The section on types of power meters is outdated of course. I suspect that the sections on software interfaces will be a little outdated as well. But hopefully the basics will still be the same. I'm about halfway through the book.

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    The most important parts of that book are the theory, the sample plans, and the discussion around the sample plans. If after reading it you still don't think you can put a plan together yourself, then just do your offseason work using a sample plan. Modify it going forward or employ a coach.

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    Speaking of which, what would you guys consider the very "floor" for coaching, in terms of cost and interface? For example, there is a local racer/coach who charges $125 /month for initial consultation, personalized training plan, email contact, and phone call every two weeks. That's the very minimum he offers/charges. Is that kind of arrangement sufficient and a good value if the coach knows what he is doing?

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    Do you always buy the cheapest everything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shovelhd View Post
    Do you always buy the cheapest everything?
    Pretty much. Cheapest power meter. Cheapest ultegra bike. Cheapest copy of the Allen and Coggan book.

    In any given group ride I am always on the cheapest bike.

    I'm probably too cheap to hire a coach!

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