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Old 05-21-15, 12:12 AM
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Seems like much ado about nothing... he was done for anyway, with the 1-min gap.

I guess he could've taken back a minute-plus but I doubt it.
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I was watching the Giro this morning as per usual. This happened. Fun times.
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whats happening in that? ice?
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rain. it was really slick apparently and these dudes were trying to bomb a twisty descent. Simon Gerrans crashed out and DNF'd and other young guy from BMC crashed and broke a vertebrae. other crashes with less serious outcomes. very dicey.

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talk about even more clusterf***
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well if you are talking about today's stage then yes. more CF.
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yeah, i am. they really ought to credit them with the same time... 300meters out when it happened, no way anyone is going to catch up to a sprint train in that situation. it makes you think if the jury is just trying to stiff (non-Italian) racers
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whats happening in that? ice?
The diesel makes roads sooooooo greasy when it rains. I once lowsided across an entire roundabout in Belgium and didn't even get road rash.
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Originally Posted by echappist
yeah, i am. they really ought to credit them with the same time... 300meters out when it happened, no way anyone is going to catch up to a sprint train in that situation. it makes you think if the jury is just trying to stiff (non-Italian) racers
i agree but after the whole richie porte/aussies helping aussies 'we must follow the rules' kerfuffle. there's no way they were gonna be lenient there
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And all that just incidentally helps Aru...

i hope Contador didnt hurt his shoulder
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Originally Posted by echappist
And all that just incidentally helps Aru...

i hope Contador didnt hurt his shoulder
according to CN AC said he didnt fall on his shoulder.
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Originally Posted by echappist
yeah, i am. they really ought to credit them with the same time... 300meters out when it happened, no way anyone is going to catch up to a sprint train in that situation. it makes you think if the jury is just trying to stiff (non-Italian) racers
The rule is "inside of 3k", not "somewhere around 3k, depending on how we feel".

And it's not like Contador is really threatened by this. He's crushing Aru as it is, and I'm sure will crush him in the TT tomorrow.
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What a great race. So did Dombrowski blow it by having a chat with Busche, or did that crash just take too much out of him?
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Crash and perhaps the attack. Busche countered and it was game over. Makes you wonder if that what the move to make had Garmin wanted to win. Dombrowski wasn't going to outsprint most, and getting him in a break with others doesn't seem as prudent as getting Howes away...
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Those guys were so far into the cave that it wasn't tactics anymore. It was heart. All heart.
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I really don't understand C-G sometimes. I really think some of the guys on that team have much more legs than sense. Like Ryder Hesjedal riding at the back of the field and losing 4min when Astana punches it on a descent. Or Talansky and Howes letting, arguably, the least experienced and slowest (in a finish) of the three of them go up the road with Busche. Did they really think that there was any chance in hell that Busche would NOT work Dombrowski over?

When Kiel Reijnen flatted, they had that race sewn up. Drive the pace for Howes, prevent Reijnen from getting back on, blow away old man Horner in the sprint. Completely mystified as to how they botched that one.
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I really don't understand C-G sometimes. I really think some of the guys on that team have much more legs than sense. Like Ryder Hesjedal riding at the back of the field and losing 4min when Astana punches it on a descent. Or Talansky and Howes letting, arguably, the least experienced and slowest (in a finish) of the three of them go up the road with Busche. Did they really think that there was any chance in hell that Busche would NOT work Dombrowski over?

When Kiel Reijnen flatted, they had that race sewn up. Drive the pace for Howes, prevent Reijnen from getting back on, blow away old man Horner in the sprint. Completely mystified as to how they botched that one.
It kind of looked like Joe went first, and Busche came with then went over the top with Mannion in tow. I thought it was an attack-counter attack type set up where they were hoping Horner or someone else would cover or bring them back allowing them to send Howes up the road. They also lost last year with the strongest guy in the group (howes again) by riding the front for far too long and seemingly just using all of their men to try to drop people.
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Today's Giro stage was classic ****.

Contador attacked after he flatted or whatever, caught Aru, blasted by him and made him cry. Game over.
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Nationals was such an incredible race. I'm a new englander at heart, but definitely have a soft spot for MABRA due to my time spent living/racing down there so it was incredible to see joe d come oh so close. Seeing kyle murphy up there was wild too. Probably one of the best road races I've watched in a while.

Haven't really been keeping up with the giro, but lol @ ryder *****ing because saxo chases down his break aways.
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Every Cat3 or better should go to Nationals at least once in their career. It's the most intense racing I've ever done.
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Originally Posted by mattm
Today's Giro stage was classic ****.

Contador attacked after he flatted or whatever, caught Aru, blasted by him and made him cry. Game over.
yep. I posted on here somewhere said in about 2008 that eventually Contador's name would be mentioned with the same reverence as Coppi, Merckx, Hinault, et al. He's the best GT racer I've ever watched. The Bassos, Evans, Schlecks, and Wiggins come and go, but Contador remains.
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Originally Posted by mattm
Today's Giro stage was classic ****.

Contador attacked after he flatted or whatever, caught Aru, blasted by him and made him cry. Game over.
yes. not a suspect performance at all. didn't he make up 3, 4' on that climb?

Aru's faces, though...
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yes. not a suspect performance at all. didn't he make up 3, 4' on that climb?
Apparently he was 4 or 5' slower than the "record" time set by Pantani or someone back in "the day".. so at least not setting off alarm bells.

Today's stage was obviously less exciting, but sprint finishes are always a blast to watch. Love rewinding the last 500m or so and watching all the random argy-bargy **** that goes on.
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