2015 Race Results
03-02-15, 12:28 AM
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Another unedited clip (my editing PC is at home). This is the finish of the P12 Crit in Chico SR. A whole new level of riding. Never been so pleased about 30th something place and kind of happy he was not in the sprint mix. HR Threshold value jumped 22. Ave 28+ mph, last 3 laps north of 30.
Lots of empty rooms here in Chico so we decided to spend the night in a hotel on the course rather than get home 2-3 AM.
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Lots of empty rooms here in Chico so we decided to spend the night in a hotel on the course rather than get home 2-3 AM.
I'm in it!
A whole new level of riding indeed.
I knew pros were fast, and have raced a few; but racing against a few pro teams at once is a whole other ball game. Glad to survive, and eek out a top 50.
Which is kind of sad, but out of 140 a lot of guys did much worse in the crit!
03-02-15, 12:33 AM
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Stage 4, downtown crit. Fun fun taking the corners. Inside on turn one and 2 are perfect. Moving up hard at the tailwind start/finish going into last lap, had energy, looking good (2 man break, would be going for 3rd), then everyone in front slows... huh? Neutralized. Roll around, wait, they give us 2 laps but my legs hate resting and trying to go full gas again. Pack finish.
4/5s had 3 crashes in the final turn. Just as I was riding by the side. Freaking scary. One guy flew straight over his bars.
4/5s had 3 crashes in the final turn. Just as I was riding by the side. Freaking scary. One guy flew straight over his bars.
03-02-15, 08:07 AM
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As my first crit (and second race), I don't quite understand the pit. Today it appeared that the "pit" was the side of the road against the barricades from the start/finish line down about 25-30 meters. I saw wheels leaning against the barricades, but otherwise it wasn't posted or labeled. If I was going to stop and change wheels due to a mishap (just an example), wouldn't that effectively be stopping on the course? I know I'm new to racing, but it was very unclear to me as I rode past hearing that clattering and wondering when/where to stop.
If it was your first race and your seat post loosened and you came in the pit, I would probably let you fix it and give you your free lap. I would be sure to let you know that you won't get a break next time. Fix your seat post. If you were a habitual offender, no breaks. Fix and chase.
03-02-15, 08:17 AM
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I have found that when riders are asked if they hit the ground, the majority will lie. So I don't ask anymore. I get the numbers, though, so if you come in a second time, the Chief gets to decide whether you stay in or not.
03-02-15, 09:01 AM
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Cherry Pie m35-123 5th/42
A pan-handle shaped course with the handle being up a slight 20s hill, 180 at the top. Finish is the top of the hill, after a chicane.
I stopped counting stars and stripes, but Chronos had 3-4 guys alone. Anyway, it wasn't the big-fish-small-pond I as hoping for with Chico happening a mere 5 hours north. The race started as all NorCal races seem to. The first 15-20 minutes were attack after attack after attack. Eventually one guy gets a big gap, then Metcalf jumped to bridge. Nobody went, so I waited until Kevin was about halfway there and attacked just ahead of the chicane, up the hill, just about crashed at the 180 and sprinted down the hill. That got me about a bike length, but at the bottom I dug in and redoubled efforts. That did it and a few moments later I was with Kevin, then with Kevin and the previous leader and we were off.
About 10 minutes later 3 others caught on and we rode with 6 for the last 15 minutes, nursing a 10-20s lead. We had 12s at the start of the last lap and Metcalf kept the break alive. He had a teammate there, and his teammate ended on the podium, so they did well. The uphill sprint sort of worked for me, I was not-last of the break by 1 and only lost the sprint by 2 bikes instead of 20.
Anyway, 5th in a bigger pack = 1 ****ing point. drip drip drip, 23/35 now.
A pan-handle shaped course with the handle being up a slight 20s hill, 180 at the top. Finish is the top of the hill, after a chicane.
I stopped counting stars and stripes, but Chronos had 3-4 guys alone. Anyway, it wasn't the big-fish-small-pond I as hoping for with Chico happening a mere 5 hours north. The race started as all NorCal races seem to. The first 15-20 minutes were attack after attack after attack. Eventually one guy gets a big gap, then Metcalf jumped to bridge. Nobody went, so I waited until Kevin was about halfway there and attacked just ahead of the chicane, up the hill, just about crashed at the 180 and sprinted down the hill. That got me about a bike length, but at the bottom I dug in and redoubled efforts. That did it and a few moments later I was with Kevin, then with Kevin and the previous leader and we were off.
About 10 minutes later 3 others caught on and we rode with 6 for the last 15 minutes, nursing a 10-20s lead. We had 12s at the start of the last lap and Metcalf kept the break alive. He had a teammate there, and his teammate ended on the podium, so they did well. The uphill sprint sort of worked for me, I was not-last of the break by 1 and only lost the sprint by 2 bikes instead of 20.
Anyway, 5th in a bigger pack = 1 ****ing point. drip drip drip, 23/35 now.
03-02-15, 09:04 AM
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Putting a foot down doesn't count as a crash. That rule was changed. You can't just get stuck behind. You have to hit the ground.
I have found that when riders are asked if they hit the ground, the majority will lie. So I don't ask anymore. I get the numbers, though, so if you come in a second time, the Chief gets to decide whether you stay in or not.
I have found that when riders are asked if they hit the ground, the majority will lie. So I don't ask anymore. I get the numbers, though, so if you come in a second time, the Chief gets to decide whether you stay in or not.
03-02-15, 02:48 PM
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Dirty circles aka a crit without corners. 6 laps at 6 miles and basically no elevation. I had one team mate and a couple teams had 6+ dudes. Welded back some solid breaks and followed some other attacks. Break went up the road with like a lap and a half to go while I was back recovering and stretched out some time. The pack was bringing it back with me sitting about 20th wheel at 2k to go only to have 2 guys come together and took out like 10 guys. I got caught right behind it and my race was done.
Sorry you got caught behind the crash waterfall, I heard it was a doozy. And I hope your teammate heals well.
03-02-15, 03:18 PM
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I was in the race on one of the teams with 6+ dudes (I think we had 8 in the 80ish person field). I bridged up to the "winning" break just before 2 laps to go. Winning is in quotes because all but the winner was caught by the field before the line. I took 4th place - beat by the winner out of the break and pipped at the line by 2 sprinters from the field. I thought I had a decent chance for a win, but I guess we jockeyed around way too much in the last 2k. In the end, the winner had way more left for the sprint than I did, and at least the winner of the field sprint (so 2nd in the race) was also on my team. As an old man with low training hours, I'm thrilled with 4th place - my best in a weekend P123 race.
Sorry you got caught behind the crash waterfall, I heard it was a doozy. And I hope your teammate heals well.
Sorry you got caught behind the crash waterfall, I heard it was a doozy. And I hope your teammate heals well.
03-02-15, 03:55 PM
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Have you read the rulebook? It's not a racing manual but your questions are answered in the rulebook. Ask at registration where the pit is before every race. If they don't know then ask an official at the start finish. Some pits are neutral service, you don't need to bring wheels. Others are wheels in wheels out. In that case mark your wheels with your bib number on the rim of use an index card slipped in the spokes.
If it was your first race and your seat post loosened and you came in the pit, I would probably let you fix it and give you your free lap. I would be sure to let you know that you won't get a break next time. Fix your seat post. If you were a habitual offender, no breaks. Fix and chase.
If it was your first race and your seat post loosened and you came in the pit, I would probably let you fix it and give you your free lap. I would be sure to let you know that you won't get a break next time. Fix your seat post. If you were a habitual offender, no breaks. Fix and chase.
I have not read the rulebook (yet), but I certainly will. As a baseball umpire and soccer referee, it is inevitable that I will have it memorized from front to back, etc. before too long. As for the "fixing", even if I had the allen key nearby, I've never practiced that one. I see the seat post clamp being an easy fix, but the two bolt design on my post would take me longer than 1 lap to figure out, most likely.
03-02-15, 03:58 PM
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Earlier. However, unless the crash was in front of an official, it is a self-reporting mishap that relies on honesty and integrity.
03-02-15, 03:59 PM
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I have not read the rulebook (yet), but I certainly will. As a baseball umpire and soccer referee, it is inevitable that I will have it memorized from front to back, etc. before too long. As for the "fixing", even if I had the allen key nearby, I've never practiced that one. I see the seat post clamp being an easy fix, but the two bolt design on my post would take me longer than 1 lap to figure out, most likely.
03-02-15, 05:31 PM
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Yeah. Well, there are a bunch of people (like me!) who didn't track this change; a whole bunch of us took that lap, and no one piped up to say, hey, we can't do that anymore. Which isn't to blame anyone else, it's my mistake for not knowing that having to put a foot down doesn't count anymore.
03-03-15, 07:56 AM
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03-03-15, 09:07 AM
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The info about the mishap vs avoidable should-have-known-better mechanical is useful thanks for that.
Last year the opposite happened to me: I was caught behind a crash, screeched to a halt, stayed upright, but my chain came off. It got all twisted up and it took me an eon to fix it. I didn't stop at the pit, I just rode the rest of the race solo and came in DFL. When I looked at the results, they had given me a virtual free lap and I didn't place DFL. My coach told me I should have gone directly to the pit (run backwards thru the middle of the course, in this case) instead of trying to fix my chain myself.
Ironically, during this incident, my team mate did go down in the crash, and as I (and her boyfriend) were fixing my chain, I told her to go to the pit and get her free lap. I thought that since I hadn't hit the deck I wouldn't get one, even though I had a mechanical because of the crash.
Anyway, I guess it probably comes down to a judgement call with many factors involved, and it's hard to know what the judges are going to say in any particular situation, especially if you are trying to figure that out during a race while redlined.
Last year the opposite happened to me: I was caught behind a crash, screeched to a halt, stayed upright, but my chain came off. It got all twisted up and it took me an eon to fix it. I didn't stop at the pit, I just rode the rest of the race solo and came in DFL. When I looked at the results, they had given me a virtual free lap and I didn't place DFL. My coach told me I should have gone directly to the pit (run backwards thru the middle of the course, in this case) instead of trying to fix my chain myself.
Ironically, during this incident, my team mate did go down in the crash, and as I (and her boyfriend) were fixing my chain, I told her to go to the pit and get her free lap. I thought that since I hadn't hit the deck I wouldn't get one, even though I had a mechanical because of the crash.
Anyway, I guess it probably comes down to a judgement call with many factors involved, and it's hard to know what the judges are going to say in any particular situation, especially if you are trying to figure that out during a race while redlined.
Yeah. Well, there are a bunch of people (like me!) who didn't track this change; a whole bunch of us took that lap, and no one piped up to say, hey, we can't do that anymore. Which isn't to blame anyone else, it's my mistake for not knowing that having to put a foot down doesn't count anymore.
03-08-15, 06:43 AM
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I raced yesterday at the San Tan crit. 1.2 mile industrial park loops that were like a squint figure 8. Lots of turns and windy!
Cat 3/4 men: my first time in a men's crit. This was really fun. Stayed near the back of the pack for most of the race, got somewhere in the middle with about 5 laps to go and just stayed there. really fun riding with 50 guys versus the small womens fields we get here.
Masters women: this was back to back with my previous race. I rolled back to the start line, my HR was still 160 lol. There were a couple strong women. About half way through got in a break with one other. We shared the work then sprinted. I won.
Women P123: Only had 40 mins between these races. Legs were tired, and I was behind on hydration (hot and windy day). The pace was OK until about 15 mins to go. Again, got in a break with one other. She is strong, she attacked with half lap to go. I had nothing, my left calf was about to cramp so I was doing one leg drills. Finished 2nd.
I'm racing again today. We'll see how that feels....
Cat 3/4 men: my first time in a men's crit. This was really fun. Stayed near the back of the pack for most of the race, got somewhere in the middle with about 5 laps to go and just stayed there. really fun riding with 50 guys versus the small womens fields we get here.
Masters women: this was back to back with my previous race. I rolled back to the start line, my HR was still 160 lol. There were a couple strong women. About half way through got in a break with one other. We shared the work then sprinted. I won.
Women P123: Only had 40 mins between these races. Legs were tired, and I was behind on hydration (hot and windy day). The pace was OK until about 15 mins to go. Again, got in a break with one other. She is strong, she attacked with half lap to go. I had nothing, my left calf was about to cramp so I was doing one leg drills. Finished 2nd.
I'm racing again today. We'll see how that feels....
03-08-15, 08:14 AM
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Damn, rideaz, you're kicking some serious ass out there!
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