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    Racing Tires - what's everyone using?

    Looking for some tire recommendations (clincher only) for the upcoming year. What's everyone using? 23 vs 25 mm? Right now I have the 23mm stock tires that came on my Tarmac but I'm looking at upgrading the wheels to either Enve 3.4 or Zipp 303's

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    ...another cat 4-5 with expensive equipment....

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    Continental GP 4000S II

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    Quote Originally Posted by pecos View Post
    ...another cat 4-5 with expensive equipment....
    very insightful

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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousferret View Post
    Continental GP 4000S II
    this.. 23s

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    I'm partial to Michelin Pro3 Race, now Pro4 Race.

    Course, when racing, I usually use my Vittoria tubulars. (Clinchers are the flat/back-up wheels).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkadam68 View Post
    I'm partial to Michelin Pro3 Race, now Pro4 Race.

    Course, when racing, I usually use my Vittoria tubulars. (Clinchers are the flat/back-up wheels).
    25mm Veloflex Corsa (sorry we're talking about clinchers)
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    Quote Originally Posted by furiousferret View Post
    Continental GP 4000S II
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    Quote Originally Posted by pecos View Post
    ...another cat 4-5 with expensive equipment....
    what cat6 can't have nice things

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    Veloflex Masters 25. I'll be getting another set for this year.
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    Pro4 Endurance in 25mm for the winter... then Pro4 SC or whatever is on sale in 23 for the warmer months.

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    You asked about everyone else, and didn't mention race types or your weight. My answer is assuming you asked what clinchers to use in a race.
    Backup racing wheels are also often training wheels and using:
    Veloflex Master 25s rear, 23s front. 25s seem exactly the size of the 23s - they are 1mm wider.
    If you are under 140lbs - maybe the Veloflex 23s would be good.

    For training the GP4000 seem tougher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doge View Post
    You asked about everyone else, and didn't mention race types or your weight. My answer is assuming you asked what clinchers to use in a race.
    Backup racing wheels are also often training wheels and using:
    Veloflex Master 25s rear, 23s front. 25s seem exactly the size of the 23s - they are 1mm wider.
    If you are under 140lbs - maybe the Veloflex 23s would be good.

    For training the GP4000 seem tougher.
    Veloflex are the bestest, training or racing....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rkwaki View Post
    Veloflex are the bestest, training or racing....
    In general - but their bigger tires are heavier than alternatives. Puppy only trains NOW on Veloflex - Tubulars - carbons (because the PowerTap I got on eBay cheap was attached to a Zipp 404 tubular). The other clinchers have Veloflex and used as backups. They were his primary wheels and saw some race time, lots of fast group ride time. Racing tubulars are FMB - 25s and lighter, more supple ride than the Veloflex, but moving to Vittoria Cronos 24s for weight this year. Hill climbing and TT are Veloflex record 22. Just too narrow for RR wheel, and carbons are too heavy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doge View Post
    In general - but their bigger tires are heavier than alternatives. Puppy only trains NOW on Veloflex - Tubulars - carbons (because the PowerTap I got on eBay cheap was attached to a Zipp 404 tubular). The other clinchers have Veloflex and used as backups. They were his primary wheels and saw some race time, lots of fast group ride time. Racing tubulars are FMB - 25s and lighter, more supple ride than the Veloflex, but moving to Vittoria Cronos 24s for weight this year. Hill climbing and TT are Veloflex record 22. Just too narrow for RR wheel, and carbons are too heavy.
    WIth my weight I don't really care about lightness. My last set of Corsas wore out and I only got one flat, it came while bunnyhopping a set of railway tracks and catching a pothole when I landed. Definitely a tire that people don't give enough attention to. Mine are mounted on a set of Reynolds DVC 66mm rims and Industry Nine hubs. Even with my size/power the tires have performed flawlessly.
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    I've won with Lithion 2 tires and that's what I tend to train on. I also use Pro4s but I usually race on sew-ups. Use 25s in the back and 23s in the front as the 25 wont fit under my fork and brake.

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    The new Specialized Turbo Cotton 24c look interesting if you don't want to invest in tubular wheels/tires. They beat the GP4000S II by 4 watts per pair in rolling resistance. They actually roll better than all but the very best tubular tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunbar View Post
    ... They actually roll better than all but the very best tubular tires.
    Please define "roll better".

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    Why clincher only?

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    I am resisting my weight weenie nature by making this short, but there is a lot more to ride a feel than rolling resistance - esp. as tested with an eight inch (or so) drum. Also tubulars vary greatly based on how well or not they are glued.

    The OP wants a clincher. That's fine. But suggesting you can do as well with clinchers as tubulars (for the money) is not true. Those messy, expensive things would have been gone long ago if it were.

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    Master 23s for clinchers. Whatever Vittoria EVO CX xxxx I got on sale tubulars

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    vittoria evo corsa w/ latex tubes
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