Originally Posted by timcupery
As a side-note, the 4130-cromoly Le Tour Luxe is still about 1.5 lighter for frame+fork than the 1020-steel Le Tours of the same size.
Yep, it's when you get into chromo vs. high-ten that you see a significant difference. You also get a much more responsive ride quality with even basic 4130 than with any high-ten frame, because of the thinner-walled tubes....................I believe the 1.5 lb. weight difference between the 1020 frame/fork Le Tours vs. 4130 frame/fork Le Tours can be fully attributed to the frames because the forks were high-ten on the 4130-framed le tours, too. FWIW, the fork on my Centurion Pro Tour is Tange Champion #2 like the rest of the frame. That 4 lb., 12 ounce frame weight on your 63cm Comp TA, with Tange Champion #2, makes me think the chrome beneath the paint on my 53 cm Pro Tour is adding more weight than I would have guessed (frame weight 4 lb., 13 ounces). Is your Comp TA chromed beneath the paint?