Well, Pam, for once I got excited since a very sweet member on here gave me an old mountain bike of hers (not really old either and very, very spiffy). This member is a sweetheart and I'm going to figure out a way to repay her, but in the meantime, I need a beginner's ride. However, I'm doing the brevet this coming Saturday as training for Butterfield. I'd love to join on the next one!