I didn't see your first posting,I'm not going to look either. I read what you type now AND: Specialized,he likes it ,he sells it,it's aluminum. Jamis..do yourself a favor,click on their site, same with Bianchi.These are very user-friendly sites.They have nice pictures and the products are great,year after year these two firms offer very sensibly spec'd, well made, good (and not overly complex) range of choices. Trek has a really nice tourer, one of the few reasonably priced steel bikes with bar-end shifters(barcons). The Trek has all the fixins of a full-blown tourer,a rack too. So, unless you're lookin' for a peanut butter and jelly sandwich without the bread, I see no cunfusion! Your choice is limited to the shops you care to visit,the color,frame material and to a very small degree price.Click on the sites and see for yourself or don't