S2, fully understood your position; my comment was really directed at another post. peaceout.
As far as other humiliating stories and beer. 'bout 10 years back a girl I was dating (who is my wife now) and I stop at a bayfront bar for lunch. beautiful day. Good food. Good beer. Lunch turns to dinner. After dinner a band starts playing out on the back deck. Dinner turns to 'nightclub atmosphere'.
12 hours later, we walk out from 'lunch', clip in our bikes, and go. My wife is riding my race-bike. Her first day in clips. ever. falls on her back, bike suspended directly abover her; pedals spinning, in front of a large crowd.
No problem, the bike I was on had duel-sided pedals. Swap bikes. Now its her first time ever on a fixed gear. Pedal twice. Coast. Crash again in front of the same crowd.
ouch.