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thanks for the responses so far! glad to hear that a couple people have had success with deep v's. i think the combined benefits/advantages are compelling enough to spend 5 extra dollars, but to each her own.

also, dustinlikewhat: you've found me out . . . i'm totally on a freight train right now - amazing how some of these cargo holds are wi-fi hot spots. i'm glad to see the train companies finally making an effort to raise the standard of living for hobos and punks. but would it kill them to put in a starbucks lounge car? and i'm going to have to go ahead and reject your offer to dub me box whine, but thanks anyway.

oh and jodypolk, i'm glad you got the reference!