the spanish g-bike site joined a bigger org over there, but i cant remember the intitials, they dont deal w/ alt bicycles, only speedy things. randy is right, i need to grow up, but i just cant tear myself away from you ppl and your weird cycles! i just got a bunch of work done on my rat today, made a good thrift store find, for 5 bucks and two hideous rims/tubes/tires, rebuilt the front hub, the coaster brake works fine, and i got some part off it for other projects. fantastic! fast eddie outty