I'd agree, Marin are great bikes and their designs are unique and elegant compared to all those 4 or 6-bar bikes that look like farm tractor on the market..... I feel most mountain biker are a conservative bunch so if a bike looks too far away from the main stream, they won't embrace it or afraid of it. I have a Whyte PRST-1 design by John Whyte and I just love the bike as its rear wheel traction is just incredible on that thing and it share the rear swingarm similar to the Mount Vision I think. Marin is where mountain biking started and it deserved more respect and recognition.