Wow, those mixtes are sweet Dirtdrop, I love them both. Er... so I didn't buy it, because after more consideration and research, I think I need a frame that's quite a bit smaller than that one, 48-50cm. Thanks for the advice, I'm learning a ton about what to look for from this forum. About craigslist.. right now I'm in OKC where people apparently don't use it much. It's weak.